30 year old arts graduate struggling to get by

Your dad could do it on one income, because my mum was ejected out of her job when she got married. When you force domestic slavery on half the population, the buying power of the other half effectively doubles.

Did you not learn that in political science?

So, either you chain all the women to the kitchen sink again, or you accept that couples have double your buying power these days.

In rental, in shared, in their own homes, or with their parents. A few I know have lived in shared to save for a deposit on a house.

Reading your posts here I strongly suspect the housing crisis isn't your key issue, at all

In this whole thread YOU are the only one who thinks rented accommodation is for the "Lower Class". That statement ALONE States where attitudes need to adjust.

YOU have REPEATEDLY suggested that people who rent are somehow inferior. This is 2022 and people still believe this. YOU and YOUR PEERS need to reassess and readjust. I hate to tell you but it's not the 19th Century anymore. Not even the 20th.

If you are not trolling then you have certainly lost all sympathy from me and I would imagine many others.

"Lower class" for renting.... In 2022. Unbelievable.

JFC! What civil servant except for Robert **** Watt or Paul **** Reid can afford to buy a house on one income? None! BUT if you start off at a decent grade (the civil service recruits at HEO and APO level, starting pay €50k/€70k) and work away for a few years, then what the **** is stopping you from owning somewhere? Rent out a room, there's another €10k a year income, that the bank will take into account too for mortgage purposes.

You've been given that option and plenty of others but ignore those posts, and instead seem to be holding out for someone here to come up with a magic solution for you that takes absolutely no effort on your part, just an immediate house or something.

Not going to happen. Go be a bus driver or HGV trucker, like you say you'll have to do... life is, apparently, perfect for them, they've not had to go on strike/organise protests recently because of shite incomes.

Excellent trolling, though, not many troll threads make it to 7+ pages.

a) With parents; b) They rent, in apartment- or house-shares (there is no stigma to this); c) down the country, but on a rail-line to Dublin (or whatever city their job is based in); d) cities other than Dublin, for 60- 80% of the Dublin rent. WFH is a thing these days. e) abroad.

It's a real shame FFG fucked up the housing market on you.

Oh come on. There's a lot of middle ground that you're ignoring. Move out of Dublin, get a different job, start being realistic and stop going by what the media or others tell you to feel.

Every other generation is not the same as this generation. Owning your own home is wonderful but thinking you need property to be happy is a silly way to think

300k house. Put down 20% (60k). Mortgage 240k. At current rates of 3.2% fixed (which will likely go up soon), your repayments would be just over 1k a month for a 30 year mortgage.

That's probably what you are aiming for. If you can get a mortgage. And if you have your 60k deposit saved (plus a bit for other expenses)

Yeah, but you're a "conservative", and won't vote for the parties that actually advocate for building public housing, so... 🙄

As I mentioned before, I.... And my FIVE siblings grew up in a council house. My father worked himself into an early grave and my mother worked. EACH of us has given back many times more in our years of paying tax than we ever "received for free".

We each have bought our own homes.

We ALL came from this feared "Lower Class". From time to time we each required social welfare assistance as jobs were lost and re-training was required.

We each lived "as plebs" as posted so wonderfully above, sharing accommodation as required.

This is not a tale of rising up and beating the odds. This is not looking for a patronising pat on the back for rising above "our station" from the slums. This is a tale of REAL PEOPLE doing what real people do. Work and don't assume that they are entitled to something they didn't earn. You are so quick to brand people as "Lower Class" that you forget that these are real people. People.... Just... Like... YOU! "Plebs"... "Lower Class". My God.

You have only yourself and your peers to blame for this percieved injustice and persecution for being so "Lower Class" that you need to rent share like a pleb.

You and your peers have maintained and promoted this opinion that renters are somehow inferior. Now live with it or pull your opinions into the 21st century.

I REALLY do hope OP is trolling because their attitude is disgusting.

Edit: Again, fix phone autocorrect

He's winding you up. Don't feed him.

its not your fault, you are living in a time where maybe 14 per cent of working people ,people on 50k plus can afford to buy a house.our economy boomed, our population grew to 5 million, the supply of new housing did not even get close to keeping up.look up housing price ,sydney australia ,700k plus on average. this is happening in canada, american citys,seattle ,portland, los angeles .there is no stigma to renting in other countrys https://www.canadahousingcrisis.com/ people are moving to small towns, as they can work from home using laptops zoom.But this is putting up the average price of houses in those area,s

we also have a problem in that most of our rental stock, is not high quality.