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3100 complaints - 6 months - 1 guy - DUB

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    #32
    Riesen_Meal
    Registered Users Posts: 10,575 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    I grew up in Santry most of my life and I'm back here now and I just don't even notice it anymore, that chap in Ongar must certainly have other issue's...


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    #33
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I live in Lucan so not close to the airport but the original article mentioned complaints from Celbridge, Maynooth and Tallaght. Bollocks, I'm closer than they are and don't hear a single thing from the airport.

    I work East of the airport near Blanch and used to work in Finglas, it's never been an issue. I hear them passing by but barely notice it most of the time. I see a plane every 5 minutes or so during the day. You wouldn't hear it over a TV, kettle etc.

    I've heard two within 90 seconds of each other at work and it's really not that loud. Certainly nowhere near as loud as cars passing by my house in the estate.


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    #34
    L1011
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    You can definitely hear A320s without the blowoff vortex mod approaching 10 on specific paths from Maynooth. So distance is only one factor

    The 25 year old surface on the motorway creates more noise though!


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    #35
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    L1011 wrote: »
    You can definitely hear A320s without the blowoff vortex mod approaching 10 on specific paths from Maynooth. So distance is only one factor

    The 25 year old surface on the motorway creates more noise though!

    I stand corrected!


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    #36
    Car99
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    L1011 wrote: »
    You can definitely hear A320s without the blowoff vortex mod approaching 10 on specific paths from Maynooth. So distance is only one factor

    The 25 year old surface on the motorway creates more noise though!

    Do A320's with the blow off vortex mod get cheaper landing fees in Dublin similar to other big airports?


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    #37
    LXFlyer
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    FionnK86 wrote: »
    They’re back at it again, prolific complainant from Ongar accounted for 7786 complaints (21/day) in 2019?

    Even worse - last July they complained on average 147 times each day for the month.

    A second individual has now joined in.

    That level of complaining really is ludicrous and I'd have to question whether the airport should even be dealing with them full stop.


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/individual-made-8000-noise-complaints-to-dublin-airport-in-one-year-38924487.html


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    #38
    ohnonotgmail
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    Do they actually do anything with the complaints apart from file them in the round filing cabinet?


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    #39
    john boye
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Do they actually do anything with the complaints apart from file them in the round filing cabinet?

    Pass them to the Mental health commission hopefully.


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    #40
    Guy:Incognito
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    What outcome is the person after? A reply that says "apologies for that, we'll shut the airport down straight away"?


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    #41
    Nijmegen
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    What outcome is the person after? A replay that says "apologies for that, we'll shut the airport down straight away"?

    I live in a new build estate under the flight path. Every now and again someone newly arrived joins the residents Facebook group and is linking off to petitions or taking readings of decibel levels. People are just.... well.....


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    #42
    eiei0
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    Is he the guy who was a slightly outside the zone that gets free sound insulation for there home??

    sort of took any credibility from his complaints when he mentioned that,


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    #43
    con___manx1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    Doubt the guy who made those complaints has a job. Who would have the time to put that many complaints in.


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    #44
    endacl
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    Is there a complaints version of an Isaac Wunder order? Where the complaint can be ignored based purely on the complainant in question?


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    #45
    Feisar
    Registered Users Posts: 6,648 ✭✭✭Feisar


    cournioni wrote: »
    Don’t like it? Move. The airport was there long before this person I’m sure, flight path hasn’t changed in 15 years either, yet the complaints have only started to flood in.

    But the law states the tort of noise pollution starts when their is an inconvenience. For example I could be breaking rock in my backyard for twenty years unhindered, however you move in next door and complain and I’ll need to stop

    First they came for the socialists...



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    #46
    smurfjed
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    I feel sorry for this person right now, I’m wondering how they are spending their time considering the lack of flights to complain about.


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    #47
    Tenger
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    Maybe 15-20 a day? One for each departure


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    #48
    john boye
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    He must actually look forward to a flight going over these days, gives him something to do.

    Hopefully this break gives him a chance to get another hobby, something more wholesome maybe.


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    #49
    zell12
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    The [Ongar] complainant lodged 12,272 complaints during 2021 with DAA at an average rate of 34 cases daily. Reports from the individual accounted for 90% of complaints received about noise from aircraft

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/dublin-airport-got-12272-noise-complaints-last-year-from-just-one-person-41560228.html




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    #50
    Blut2
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    Wow... you'd wonder how much time per week they spend submitting complaints. An average of 34 a day every single day of the year, it must be a significant chunk of their waking hours.



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    #51
    donkey balls
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    I used to rent a house in the same area of the lad making the complaints, And have friends living in the same area over 20 years now. And they hardly ever hear departing aircraft.

    Where I'm living now is directly in the flight path and you get used to departing arriving aircraft, A new estate went up about 6 years ago across from me and I know a couple living there and they complained about the noise, Obviously they didn't do their homework when selecting a home.

    Then we had some PBP councillor complaining about the new RWY even though the flight path is a not even near the estate.



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    #52
    MrMusician18
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938564#Comment_118938564

    I'd say you could fire off 34 mails in half an hour. Presumably the complainant has a decibel logger and he submits the time and the noise level as his complaint. Boilerplate stuff, I doubt there is any detail such as a description of the aircraft.

    You could even automate it further with a script to trigger a complaint mail if a certain dB is exceeded.

    I don't know any details of this complainant but if the noise levels in at this individuals house exceed the planning and other levels designated, then it really doesn't matter if no one else is complaining - it's still valid.



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    #53
    [Deleted User]
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    It would be interesting to know if the complainant makes any differentiation between the modern stuff like A220, Max, Neo and the older stuff.

    Their footprint should be considerably lower.



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    #54
    lordleitrim
    Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118939462#Comment_118939462

    I've lived in Ongar for over 15 years snd can assure you aircraft noise is not noisy here whatsoever. Yes you might hear the odd passing aircraft occasionally but not to make you stop in your tracks or get irate about it. I think the person in question must have some OCD or mental health issue to be completely consumed and obsessed by this every waking hour of every day of the year to submit 1000s of complaints each year(jow on earthdo they have the time?). What does he/she expect to achieve from this? Are they also complaining to the refuse collection companies weekly as their bin trucks would actually make a louder noise on bin day? Wind blowing against window panes would be louder too than any aircraft noise out here...should we complain to the Met Office?


    I'm quite perplexed by this person's issue as it doesn't make any sense for it to be a nuisance in Ongar.



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    #55
    Northernlily
    Registered Users Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Northernlily


    Seriously, this fella should be filtered out of complaint logging stats. There is very clearly other issues there.



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    #56
    Tenger
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    Interesting that the complaints increased in 2021, even though aviation was stifled for the first 6 months of the year.



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    #57
    HTCOne
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118945083#Comment_118945083

    We’re either dealing with a scammer looking to get compensation or a nutcase.



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    #58
    donkey balls
    Registered Users Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    How could they possibly pay someone off when other people like myself live closer to the airport?



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    #59
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I work directly west of one of the runways, it really isn't that loud. I work nights and I'm the only one in the building so it would be hard to miss. I hear people joyriding most nights more than anything else.

    I know sound is subjective but I'm a light sleeper. I'm very close to Weston, apples to oranges but the prop planes are louder when I'm outside compared to the airport traffic when walking around where I work and I don't have issues sleeping or with noise.



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    #60
    neris
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118945375#Comment_118945375

    Nutcase I'm sure scammers can only last so long mentally



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