Kilkenny GAA Thread

I was merely correcting your assertions if you'd bother to understand it.

Limerick and Waterford are way ahead of all the rest ..... Both skill wise and physical conditioning .... Waterford are in some condition ....and have way more pace in the team than Limerick ....I'd give them every chance ......

I think on the weekends matches you're not too far away but don't discount the physicality and effort kilkenny should bring to the table. It helps to be able to bring in 4 or 5 quality options off the bench and vary our play when not working. If you look at Cork yesterday Limerick disrupted their running game and when they went long Limerick mopped this up with their spare man at the time. Similar to what happened us against Cork on the last 2 occasions we met them. We have to carry and not allow other teams to bottle us up. On the flip side we tend to let runners through relatively unscathed. When we hit fairly we have to hit hard and try to disrupt teams as Limerick did yesterday to Cork.

Massive u20 campaign ahead for Kilkenny u20's. We really need this team to deliver, made up of 3 very good minor teams. Especially with the Kk senior team pushing on with 5/6 of the better players in there 30s. We really need this team to be pushing hard for an All Ireland.

Are you serious. Kilkenny have not won at that level since 2008 and the results are now showing at senior level. Waterford, Limerick and Wexford are backboned by very good u21 team or 2 . We badly need success at under 20 level for at least some optimism for the future. Our better players are in there 30s at senior level. Kilkenny should be very competitive at u20 level. Galway are down 2/3 of there better players through playing senior champo and injury.

Do you expect the under 20s to win the All Ireland this year?

Galway have lost gavin Lee to the seniors and other teams have lost players due to that silly rule. Kilkenny have no one on the senior panel. It's a pity Liam Moore didn't come back he would of being a big help.it looks like a young team but preparation has gone well so there shouldn't be any excuses. I don't know much about offally but we've struggled so badly at this level it's hard to be confident.

Well that's exactly my point.

I agree re Kilkenny providing a different fight but we have to understand our own misgivings in relation to our distribution of the ball, especially puckouts. In our last 2 competitive games v Cork we weren't too smart with our puckouts when both games were there to be won. Hopefully this will be addressed and we can try to turn games from our own play. Just on another note maybe it was discussed here already but is Richie Hogan gone off the panel?

Martin Breheny in the Indo says hurling is gone so tactics based that it's turning into something like a computer game. Whether that's the case or not, management need to tick as many boxes as possible now to get the optimum from the team. We're not doing that, case in point - we're still not comfortable with the short puckouts as we don't practice it enough. Likewise we need to perfect running off the shoulder and running into space. We're also lacking leadership on the pitch which needs to be addressed. We need to use the throw ball much more, it's not blown much in the championship. Our players should go down when fouled and the medics run in immediately. Slow things down when under pressure, for example the goalkeeper has a mysterious knock/injury. Players need to be seen to encourage each other by slapping each other on the back etc. Be prepared to use all five subs. And review our stamina levels as we're not lasting the full match.

I know most of the above isn't Cody's way, but it's critical if we're to be competitive, and it is the way most other counties operate now. The players are capable of a lot more if the preparation is updated. We must tick the boxes.

I agree a lot of what I said is fit the future but done can be introduced right away.

Regarding stamina, you may be right.

Lack of floodlights in Nowlan Park and visibility issues after 7:30pm if the weather isn't good I assume.

Kilkenny looked like a team that had been told 2 minutes before throw in that they were going to play a short passing game. Gave away a mountain of ball by passes that were too long, too short, misdirected to an Offaly player or given to a player under pressure. Gave away a lot of silly frees also. Somewhere in there is a decent team but only 12 days to get their act together against Galway. A lot of work to be done.

lads , is Harry Shine the next D.J. Carey or T.J. Reid, ?

Perhaps but his first poor performance and the knives will be out no doubt. 2 more years at under 20, so plenty of time to develop further.