General Star Trek thread

After the conversation here, what a treat in todays Picard!!!!

A short behind-the-scenes on that TNG: Animated Series clip -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcRzkRTlUY4

He also reminds us that Wesley and Data weren't at the nav and ops stations during that scene, which is unusual I suppose but maybe with everything else going on, reaction shots from those two just weren't necessary. You'd need to have Data battle the Borgs if he'd been there, and the boy whimpering in the corner or something. Tight scene, no need for it.

But it only failed because Picard was turned into Locutos and so the Borg knew everything he knew otherwise it would have been a success.

Ya but they were also Mirandas and Excelsiors which DS9 has shown us have no shields and are made of toilet paper.

That was always my assumption alright, that Picard's knowledge helped the Borgs during the Wolf359 battle. Wasn't it somewhat mentioned in the episodes too?

After all this chat I'm going to have to give those episodes a watch again soon.

"the fight does not go well, Enterprise"

I get the impression that the Enterprise D had the benefit of having all of the most Borg-experienced people on board during those fights. They learned early that Picard had given the Borg an edge and changed all of their routines accordingly. However, over at Wolf 359 the fleet were in a mad rush to assemble every last ship they had, including some Oberths and Constitution Class ships. They were probably in no state to even start working on clever ways to get around the Borg's knowledge of Picard, and so they were doomed.

We all know that is fake now come on. I would say it was just budget and time constraints that stopped them showing shield effects in the DS9 battle fights. They just wanted to make it look good maybe give the impression that they had been fighting for a while and so maybe there shields were low or gone and thats why the ships get destroyed easily.

Also as the Borg had assimilated Picard they had full knowledge of all the ships shields frequencies and Cammand codes so it was an easy battle for the Borg. If they could laugh at the stupidity of Starfleet in letting Picard have all that knowledge they probably would have.

Why Picard would know every ships shields frequency in starfleet and Cammand codes makes no sense? Surely only the Captain and engineer on each ship and the main people working with them should no and maybe an Admiral back at Starfleet Cammand incase of a ship mutiny or it getting stolen or something? Then he would tell the Captain of the nearest ship to go after that ship and share its codes and shield frequency be it Picard and the Enterprise or someone else.

The funny thing is (not sure where I saw it mentioned in canon) is the material that makes up Federation starship hulls is actually super strong, it's just that starship weapons happen to be more powerful than even the most powerful nukes of the 21st century. Like in the few cases where we see starships crash land into planets, the hull is mostly intact afterwards.

Given the strength of 23rd/24th century weapons, I'm surprised the likes of Earth and Vulcan seem to be so lightly defended. One stray photon torpedo from a starship in range and bye bye all life on the planet.

Jack Quaid is where?

I do not think it would be all life. They are powerful weapons yes but they are not nukes. They are more like real big bombs even more powerful than the M.O.A.B that America has today. Also photon Torpedos can be set to different yields so it could be set to a low yield or maybe medium or high yield. I suppose it would depend on what the Torpedo is set at and also I think they are set to go off after a certain distance anyway at least Federation ones are.

Here is a thought for ye.

What do you think the Borg do to Animals when they assimilate a whole planet?

For me I can not see them having any use for Cows or Goats, Lamps etc but cats and Dogs yes I could see them assimilate them as drones that deliver parts or clean up maybe. O could even see them having a use for mice and rats. Not sure of they would bother to assimilate insects do as just go primitive the nanotechnology would nearly be as big as some insects lol.

Well if Kazons were too dumb to assimilate surely assimilating dogs wouldn't be a good idea. It could lead to the hive mind just wanting to sniff other species and have Borg cubes chasing every comet they see just to return it to it's point of origin.

Part of being in the collective is the hive mind, non sapient creatures would detract from that and as Breezy pointed out Kazon don't even make the cut.

The first tease we get of them is a completely stripped colony on the Neutral Zone and the Earth in FC didn't look to have much green in it.

Given the state of Earth's atmosphere in the First Contact alternate timeline and the hot humid conditions on the inside of a Borg Cube (global warming on steroids), I assume most life on a planet gets killed off after the Borg taken over.