What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

They’re both trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator in French society, and voters are kinda stuck trying to decide which candidate is the lesser of two evils -

https://amp.france24.com/en/france/20220418-in-france-s-unhappy-democracy-voting-for-lesser-evil-is-a-bitter-pill-to-swallow

The political slogan “liberty, equality, fraternity” is being shown up for the meaningless farce it always was since it’s inception -

The term "Terror" being used to describe the period was introduced by the Thermidorian Reaction who took power after the fall of Maximilien Robespierre in July 1794, to discredit Robespierre and justify their actions. Today there is consensus amongst historians that the exceptional revolutionary measures continued after the death of Robespierre, and this subsequent period is now called the "White Terror". By then, 16,594 official death sentences had been dispensed throughout France since June 1793, of which 2,639 were in Paris alone; and an additional 10,000 died in prison, without trial, or under both of these circumstances.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror

No, probably we won't be seeing the government overthrown and the new Islamic Republic of Franchistan being established anytime soon, but things are getting worse.

The same as is happening in the UK is happening in France - immigration and multiculturalism are being used as scapegoats for the disastrous handling of their economies.

The idea of secularism in France was supposed to mean there was no prohibition on the free exercise of religion, but instead of maintaining French culture and behavioural norms, it’s only in recent years they decided to go all in on a particular religion. The idea from the beginning was nonsense in any case -

The French philosopher and Universal Declaration of Human Rights co-drafter Jacques Maritain, a devout Catholic convert and a critic of French laïcité, noted the distinction between the models found in France and in the mid-twentieth century United States. He considered the US model of that time to be more amicable because it had both "sharp distinction and actual cooperation" between church and state, what he called "a historical treasure" and admonished the United States, "Please to God that you keep it carefully, and do not let your concept of separation veer round to the European one."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularism_in_France

Nah, they just tried to conquer the known world, were involved in two world wars, and would do the same again in the morning at the first opportunity 🙄

Nope not doing it anymore.

You’re just after demonstrating that it can be made up, and you did. My flippant retort wasn’t motivated by any sort of white guilt. It was in response to the poster presenting the usual “Europe good, everywhere else bad” false narrative, as if European countries literally are whiter than white! They’re clearly not, and when someone is making that same “Everywhere else bad” point, then it absolutely should be pointed out to them to remove the beam from their own eye.

There’s no hatred of white Europeans or anything else, it’s simply acknowledging that history is more nuanced than simplistic narratives. The same chest-beating patriots claiming modern Western society is superior, are the same lads claiming Western society is weak with all the wokey, limp-wristed lefty-lib… etc, and they wouldn’t work to warm themselves! They’re taking credit for the work of a small number of people in the West, while pointing out that everywhere else is inferior, based upon the behaviour of a small number of people!

It’s not importing illiberal elements that weren’t exported in the first place by European Colonists in service of their Monarchs who thought of themselves as greater than God and wanted to spread their Kingdoms on earth. It’s not unusual or unreasonable that rulers in the Middle East would infuse their followers with an equal disdain for Western ideas of liberal democracies either. Banning headscarves is easy, shipping people off to former colonies is easy, expensive, but easy. That’s taking candy from a baby stuff. Doing something that will actually alleviate suffering of the poorest and most downtrodden and disenfranchised in society is what’s actually hard.

I don’t have anything to feel guilty about, and I don’t have anything to be ashamed of either, and I’d challenge anyone who tried to associate me with some of the wingnuts on here who claim to represent the Irish people jeering and cheerleading at what politicians in England and France are doing to other human beings in order to save their own skin.