Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Greece comes to mind 🤔

But just to be clear, the EU is not contributing financially to this situation, from what's been reported and confirmed by government they seem to be using covid contingency funds to pay for this, im open to correction. Michael Martin is on record as saying EU will not be contributing substantially if at all to this.

The Govt have made a **** balls of this speaking and setting expectations before thinking it through.

Feel sorry for the Ukrainian refugees who have lost so much. They will be the ones that suffer and I am fearful there will be awful animosity directed at them from the more narrow minded amongst us. I also feel sorry for the middle income earners here who cannot catch a break. They will be the ones that suffer further with reduced housing supply and more from their taxes.

Cabinet are a bunch of virtue signalling clueless idiots.

But they haven't, or at least a large number have reconsidered it after the initial endorphin rush from "doing the right thing" subsided and they started to think about how practical it would be to have a complete stranger living under their roof that may be dependent on them in the short term as well (pending welfare application processing etc).

This is completely understandable too.

Such a situation has never arisen before so has not been tested in the courts. If a refugee crisis emerges where we have people living in unsafe and unsanitary conditions then a state of emergency would be enacted - this effectively suspends the constitution and all bets are off. There is precedence for this as during WW2, a state of emergency existed, even though Ireland wasn't at war. That said even during that crisis, requisition of private property did not occur, to my knowledge.

It is extremely unlikely that a humanitarian catastrophe of such scale will happen in Ireland to necessitate such measures though. When word gets out that the provision here consists of camp beds in sports halls, people will seek refuge elsewhere.

Its those reliant on public services you should fell sorry for. Waiting lists in public hospitals will go through the roof. Both for Irish people and refugees.

She's probably too busy making videos on TikTok to address your concerns. Isn't it great that we've such hip politicians, who are down with the kids?

It's a massive inferiority/insecurity complex on a national level - there are too many in this country who NEED to be seen on the right side of an issue, NEED that approval and validation (especially from our perceived "betters" on the international stage - "everyone loves the Irish" after all!!), and it's why we absorb the absolute worst of the Twitter crusades and culture wars and try to transpose them into Irish society where they have zero place and hence result in internal conflict and resentments.

I don't know if it goes back to the whole "800 years" thing or what, but it's become ridiculous with the rise of social media. Before that it was the Church - people proclaiming their faith and support for it despite the clear-to-all problems and abuses that went on (and maybe even questioning it in private themselves), but still feeling it far more important to be publicly "seen as a believer" regardless and attacking anyone who dared question it. Covid and restrictions was a much more recent example of this mindset.

In some ways, despite how far we like to think/proclaim we've come, very little has changed in Ireland!

Unfortunately this sums up what I was thinking. Cost of living in Ireland is crippling without doubling it or more. Unless you’re very “well off”’then it’s really not viable.