Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Might as well give them own car transport.

And if they are vaccinated was it a Russian, Chinese or a Western one?

Also alot of antibiotics resistant TB in Ukraine.

Ireland and the UK are two of the few countries that are rabies free, cats and dogs allowed in without quarantine. I also disagree with allowing pets in from other EU countries without quarantine. This is one of the issues with the NI protocol, pets can't move between NI and GB without veterinary approval.

Apparently Housing Minister is going to expand on current Emergency powers that allow local authorities purchase more than 200 houses to accomodate homeless and vunerable people. This apparently aimed at also facilitating housing of Ukrainian refugees.

Laudable idea in principle but have to wonder why this wasn't considered years ago. I also have to wonder how many local authorities over, say the past 5 years have infact purchased 200 homes or anywhere near that number🤔, I'd wager very very few.

Even if this plan is agreed, is the Housing Minister expecting 1000's of homes to be purchased in the next 6 months, Year, 2 years 🤔 are these magical homes to be built 🤔 or purchased from existing stock 🤔, knowing as most people understand there is little or no property available to purchase outside current market , I presume it will have to be new builds.

At a glance and whilst these figures are not saying those on a Housing lists are actually homeless , there remains 59,247 households were on waiting lists last year

This figure is obviously not including the recent influx and I'd have to imagine a large percentage of those on current housing lists , are not living in ideal situations. Also worth pointing out the vast majority on current housing lists are waiting years ,indeed more than a decade in many cases. Separate to this there's near 10k actually classified as homeless , not rough sleeping but in emergency accommodation.

Even being very optimistic and assuming a percentage of pledged accommodation is taken up there is an alarming shortage of available properties either to rent or purchase. This plan, whilst laudable is again a very long term solution option.

So making it harder still for the taxpayers to purchase their own home? Pushing house prices up again

State already purchases a large percentage of housing stock. It would be interesting to see the percentage of social housing not in use, and the percentage occupancy for social housing

That's a very naïve remedial view of what is currently happening in Ukraine at the moment.

'Sure the part of the country where the Russians are not engaging in one of the biggest slaughters since WW2 is grand'

It isn't, the country's economy and systems have collapsed, its what happens when the likes of Russia intends on a full bloody take over of your country and the invaded country needs to go on a full war footing.

There is between 7 and 8 million people internally displaced a number which is growing daily, by more people returning and more evacuating from the south east. Millions more than have actually left.

That's before we even get to the rather substantial issue of Putin who wants to get the band back together, want's to carve off a large slice of Europe to give back to the Mother Russia so they will erect massive statues of him before he botoxs himself to death, an escalation which could see NATO get involved which means an uncertain future for the actual planet.

But of course you have the perpetual noisy dribblers who can't get over their irrational fear of all people who are not them and see the more substantive issue.

But but but, bloody women and children taking our camp beds in disused sports halls.

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In all fairness, many people asked the question how! We were labelled racist and inhumane. Why don't the government just call it now!? We have so many here. Let's deal with them first. They need to stop this madness of "no cap"! Are they living in lala land for christ sake.

Very unlikely Putin would fire a random rocket or bombing mission just to Ireland. He has bigger fish to fry. Though he has retaliated against Irish Aircraft Leasing already.

Even if we did nothing Ireland would still be effected. Tbh he's demonstrated being close with Russia does not project anyone from megalomania.

In terms of refugees we've bitten off more than we can chew.

The govt has demonstrated to landlords and tenants they don't care about housing and will happily leave you carry the can. You'd be mad to think they won't do the same with this.

It is depressing and the opposition parties are of the same left leaning populist mantra so they are not going to speak up or do anything about things if they get into power.

We badly, badly need a centre right party that are financially and economically sensible and that place an importance on law and order.

FG, FF, Greens, SF, PBP etc. - they are all merely different shades of the same colour. Bloody depressing alright.

This is very true... if 3 years ago you'd suggested that a democratic, liberal, generally young country would face 18 months of restrictions, lockdowns, travel limits, limits on where you can go and what you can do and with whom and needing to show "your papers!" to do so, and that kids would lose out on their education, social development and growth because of a pretty mild illness for almost all that get it, you'd have been called a conspiracy theorist.

And yet......

Would not like to be in the rental or purchase market now. It was already terrible, they’ve just poured a ton of petrol on top of it. There’s no way Ukrainians should get publicly funded housing before those already on the list. Temporary accommodation yes. Long term housing which we had a famine of before this. No way