What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

I find it's only a select "special" group who would have a problem with us helping out and making these peoples lives a bit easier. Most fully support everything being done

I 2nd this. Work in a sector with a lot of people outside the EU. Certain regions of the world produce people who apparently have the same qualifications but in practice their degrees are not worth the paper they are written on. Next to useless in the job. Cannot blanket ban the institutions thatt award them but can filter out a lot by setting technical problems to solve in the recruitment process(with massive weighting to the technical problem in the marking scheme).Other issue is a TEFL or equivalent standardised english language assessment is quite frequently bought(and not earned)in some regions of the world. Another sector i know of insists candidates sit their english language tests in Ireland at their own expense.. led to a 90% reduction of applicants from some regions of the world, and the ones that still applied were top class and became valued colleagues

The only ones I treat with contempt are the racists and xenophobes.

Everyone else is quite welcoming as has been seen all across the country.

Sure there's a few vocal racists, there always is, but everyone else just gets on with helping out.

I mean, imagine being pissed off that we are offering safe haven to refugees from a war torn country. How damaged does one have to be to feel such a way I wonder

Um, you raised the aspect of them having cars... not anyone else. You might want to bear that in mind. There's no need to get others involved if you want to argue with yourself.

When I came home to Ireland, I did the tour, meeting old friends and catching up with them. (I'm not big into social media friendships). Most of them would be considered "middle class" either due to their parents background, or their own education/income potential. Out of a group of five people, only one wasn't struggling. Between the mortgage, taxes, the costs involved in keeping their kids in schools, they all said that they were worse off than the working class, because nobody had any interest in providing income supports to the middle class. If anything being middle class in Ireland was a worse situation, because regardless of your personal circumstances, you were judged on being of that class (not that we get much choice in the matter). One of my friends would be considered lower working class by most standards, but because his parents have done well for themselves, he's judged by his connection to them.. so he's middle class when it comes to looking for help from the State. And then, there are a few who are definitely working class, whose parents were working class, and who are doing very well for themselves... because they're judged on being working class, and so eligible for supports, even though, any reasonable analysis of their income would put them as upper middle class.

Socially, there's little difference between the classes in Ireland, except for the genuinely lower working class... because of the access to education, and relative easy social mobility.. but when it comes to money, and the way the State perceives you, class is still very much a thing here.

As with most things in Ireland, people (especially politicians) don't really want to deal with the realities of the situation, and will turn to how they think everything should look, as opposed to the way things really are. And nobody can do anything about it, because politics in Ireland is a group-think, and individuals have no real chance to influence anything. You need the support of other established politicians to change anything, including anything in the public service, so... yeah. They're not going to support changing what produces the cream for them.

I know European who have happily converted to Islam.. and are living in Islamic nations. In that situation, it can work very well, as long as people are willing to suspend most values/standards they received from growing up European.

The problem is when Islam is transplanted to Europe, and the Islamic cultural norms are expected to be applied here, because invariably those cultural norms extend beyond Muslims to affect non-Muslims. I genuinely have no issue with Islam when it is in foreign/non-European nations. Their cultures may be able to integrate and work parallel to it.. but western culture has repeatedly shown itself vulnerable to external cultures.