F1 2022 - Round 4: Emilia Romagna (Imola)

Burkie1203 · 23-04-2022 7:22pm

https://twitter.com/Formula24hrs/status/1517931500993396739?t=lNANtW5Zr0zVQX3vpixvFg&s=19

flazio · 23-04-2022 7:38pm

He's down the back anyway so not a huge deal that.

23-04-2022 7:49pm

I think the drs might be a bit too effective?

Given the first 3 races and today with Max following closely yet it was Leclerc's tyres that went off its pretty clear the regs are working well.

Had to get out of Zhou's way when he was on the way back on the back of the bike. :P

Fuckers put up new advertising at Tamburello, fucked the lovely spot I had yesterday.

namloc1980 · 23-04-2022 8:36pm

If Max wins tomorrow he'll be 2nd in the championship.

Gamb!t · 23-04-2022 9:04pm

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Can see his point, when your used to being at the top, narrowly missing out on a title and was probably gunning for redemption this season but the car modifications are letting him down he bound to be p!ssed off, plus his his chances of winning the championship are looking pretty bleak to be honest as Ferrari will be too far ahead to catch.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-04-2022 12:13am

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Makes it better but wouldn't want it every race. Presumably you prefer if all the other races are less good...

The F1 fan mentality is amazing to watch.

i have a new idea about introducing sprint races

F1 fan:New idea? I hate it

It makes the racing better

F1 fan: I don't want it to be better, I want it to be like it was in the past

After a passage of time...

I have a new idea about getting rid of sprint races

F1 Fan: I hate your new idea.

Charlie-Bravo · 24-04-2022 12:26am

Could the sprint race be a little longer? A half hour race (100km) didn't give you enough time to sit down and digest what is happening. I'm thinking maybe 125km sprint might be good, which could bring tyre strategy into play.

Hijpo · 24-04-2022 1:09am

Nah, keep tyres and strategy out of it. Start fast finish fast.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-04-2022 1:22am

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That's almost a half race distance. They'd either need to pit for fresh tyres or tiptoe around to make one set of tyres last. The point of a sprint, is that they sprint. They go as clsoe to flat out as they can for the race distance on one set of tyres. Making it look ger would defeat the purpose.

I know there are a million ways to do it differently and to find s clever angle on how they got it all wrong. But today's sprint was really entertaining. I'm sure that annoys the people who decided they hated the new idea before they even saw it in action. Bit this was a good sprint.

It's new and good. The F1 fan's dilemma is how to transition from hating the new idea, to seeing the new idea as status quo and hating and new changes to it.

PsychoPete · 24-04-2022 1:36am

I've always liked the idea of sprint races, the more racing the better as far as I'm concerned

mr_edge_to_you · 24-04-2022 7:21am

I think the idea of more points up for grabs makes "sprinting" far more interesting than it was last year. It's like the losing bonus point in rugby. There is always something to pay for. I agree with others that it should only be a select few races each year.

mr_edge_to_you · 24-04-2022 7:21am

Harika · 24-04-2022 10:10am

FP2 race shows no overtaking but accidents likely to happen. Rain possible

PsychoPete · 24-04-2022 10:21am

A few accidents have been driver error alright but hopefully there's rain for the GP to shake things up

flazio · 24-04-2022 10:25am

Free Practice 2 racing?

Captain_Crash · 24-04-2022 10:45am

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No the Formula 2 race. The racing equivalent of the U20’s in Rugby so to speak.

AMKC · 24-04-2022 10:51am

I just watched the sprint race there now and while it was enjoyable I still do not like it and also think it is on on the wrong day. It should be Friday Fp1 and fp2 then the Sprint race with positions for the sprint race having been decided from where cars finished in the race the weekend before it and then FP3 on Saturday and then Qualifying for the main race or better yet get rid if the silly sprint race altogether and have the tyres for the main race last a full race so the cars can actually race and go flat out during the whole race.

PsychoPete · 24-04-2022 11:02am

Plenty of rain for the Porsche Super Cup

Longing · 24-04-2022 11:14am

Standing water. I was hoping for a dry F1 race. forecast looks bad with heavy showers.

strawdog · 24-04-2022 11:14am

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It's probably one for the general thread but that's quite a number of leaps you're making based on a short post so I'll expand.

Unlike this imagined typical F1 fan, I've never hated the sprint or been against trying it. Same for other attempts to change the racing format. Even the ones that haven't worked, eg one lap qualifying, I think have been worth trying.

Yes I've enjoyed most sprints but theres a few reasons I don't think they should be there for all races. An obvious one as others have mentioned is cost, the more racing time the more resources needed, more parts, the bigger likelihood of a shunt or failure. This favours the richer teams in an already unlevel playing field.

But also from a racing perspective. While it can be entertaining I also think it often takes some of the entertainment away from Sunday. For instance Sainz botched his quali and yet is now p4. Similar happened with front runners last year. We saw last year any of the bigger teams made a mistake and they usually were able to undo it in the sprint, smaller teams that had a bit of luck qualifying often seemed to have it undone. So it can take away some of the jeopardy of a normal quali weekend.

In sum I think it's good but feel the variety in the format is better for the sport at the mo and also for entertainment. So I'd put it as follows:

i have a new idea about introducing sprint races

F1 fan:New idea? Let's give it a go on a limited basis

It makes the racing better but there seem to be pros and cons to this

F1 fan: ok let's keep it on and tinker with it to improve it, we don't want to change what has worked in the past until we are sure it is right and would be sustainable

After a passage of time...

It seems to bring something, let's keep seeing how this is going and not get rid of sprint races, but also not go all in on them quite yet

F1 Fan: Cool

sam t smith · 24-04-2022 11:32am

Let’s be honest, the sprints were introduced to increase TV viewership on Saturdays. Saturday qualifying viewership is a fraction of race viewership.

I have watched all 4 sprint races to date live, but I hadn’t watched qualifying in more than a decade. I assume the same applies to many of F1 fans.

The plan for next year is 6 sprint races and longer term possibly all races.

Charlie-Bravo · 24-04-2022 11:35am

That weather radar at the moment doesn't show that rain is going to stop for a while. Could very well be a full-wets race.

Longing · 24-04-2022 11:37am

The race could be started under safety car or delayed some torrential showers inbound especially the hour before race starts.

24-04-2022 11:43am

Porsches cleared a line quick enough. But now there's over 2 hours with nothing going around.

sam t smith · 24-04-2022 12:03pm

Hopefully it won’t be a repeat of Spa last year. I paid a tenner to Now TV to watch that.

24-04-2022 12:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118968943#Comment_118968943

A good rule on the internet is not to engage with someone who tells you what you think.

lolie · 24-04-2022 12:07pm

Looks like the rain may clear by 2pm our time, showers may build up behind it though.

Link to radar.

https://meteologix.com/ie/radar-hd/bologna/#play-0-12-3

flazio · 24-04-2022 12:13pm

Driver's parade on now. Bucketing down.

MadYaker · 24-04-2022 12:17pm

They'll be starting on full wets surely? Forecasts look very unpredictable.

ShamoBuc · 24-04-2022 12:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118969088#Comment_118969088

It is worth keeping an eye on this thread, getting Sports on a deal can be great value rather than a day pass.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058086783/now-tv-latest-deal-codes#latest

sam t smith · 24-04-2022 12:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118969155#Comment_118969155

Thanks @ShamoBuc I got the half price offer before this season started.

Longing · 24-04-2022 12:37pm

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For sure €19.50 a month for 6 months.

There is no way this race will start has normal if this rain continues. Red Bull will not be happy car looked really fast in the dry.

eeepaulo · 24-04-2022 12:45pm

What time is it starting?

sam t smith · 24-04-2022 12:46pm

14:00

dulpit · 24-04-2022 12:47pm

Manky weather be manky. Looks cold too. Random that Sky have Nico Rosberg remotely there too..

El_Duderino 09 · 24-04-2022 1:11pm

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Ha. Are you seriously suggesting the average fan or the general reaction on this thread to sprint races was anything like "F1 fan:New idea? Let's give it a go on a limited basis"? Be serious. The consensus was that sprints are a "gimmick" and have absolutely no place in F1. The FIA forced the idea through and is tinkering with it, but it's not doing it dut to the popularity of thenidea amongst fans.

The notion that the F1 fan's sentiment was as open-minded as "humm, interesting idea, let's give it a go", is laughable. They hated it. But this leads to my other point that the hated new idea transitions to status quo and then gets the same defence against new ideas that were seeing now.

Just look at the post a couple of posts above yours. A poster said, without a hint of irony, that they enjoyed the sprint, but they don't like it.

I just watched the sprint race there now and while it was enjoyable I still do not like it

That's the F1 fan mentality in nutshell. But give it a few years and the same fans will vehemently oppose any suggestions of getting rid of the sprints because it's what they're used to.

BrentMused · 24-04-2022 1:21pm

"But you’re from Leighton Buzzard"

😂😂😂

Harika · 24-04-2022 1:21pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/ianparkesf1/status/1518202044787605504

Burkie1203 · 24-04-2022 1:26pm

May we see Hungary repeat here, with some pitting at end of parade lap?

dastardly00 · 24-04-2022 1:27pm

Where is Martin Brundle?

Harika · 24-04-2022 1:27pm

Could be mixed grid, button defo will go for inters.

Burkie1203 · 24-04-2022 1:28pm

Hamilton reporting an engine issue

sam t smith · 24-04-2022 1:32pm

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I don’t think Hamilton’s wing man will be in a position to take out the 2 Red Bulls like last season. (I know Verstappen was able to continue but he was way down the order with a damaged car.)

Seeing Hamilton line up on the grid on his own while every other driver pitted was one of the funniest things I have seen in F1. Really made the Merc strategists look like idiots.

strawdog · 24-04-2022 1:33pm

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The key word in your reply to me was 'presumably you prefer' and it was way off so I clarified my position.

Entitled to your opinion of what you think the average F1 fan's opinion is, my opinion is that their opinion is a bit more nuanced than you think it is. All just opinions.

But it's a race thread so let's leave it at that and can debate it on the general thread if needed.

Enjoy the race!

24-04-2022 1:35pm

As a Red Bull fan, we looked to have great pace on merit this weekend so frustrated to see rain which could turn it into a lottery. But fingers crossed for an exciting race and hopefully we can finish this one :D