Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Does anyone else wonder why they are adamant there is to be 'no cap' on the amount brought in? I mean, theyre not going to ever leave, what would they go back to? And why would they when they see how easy it is to get handouts here?

Maybe the thinking is that they'll replace the Polish/Czech/Lithuanian etc workers who went back to their home country during the pandemic and didn't return, to help out all the **** who've been moaning they can't get staff to be worked like dogs in their crap hotels for min wage.

Did anyone see the bombshell comment that Minister for Justice Helen McEntee dropped?

Pretty much ignored by the media too.

"McEntee, speaking in Government Buildings this morning, insisted that Ukrainian refugees will continue to be welcomed.

She indicated the Government will avoid, if possible, forcing people or businesses to give up property or open their homes to Ukrainian refugees"

source: https://www.thejournal.ie/ogorman-grouped-accommodation-ukrainian-refugees-5743718-Apr2022/

Which means, some people in the government are contemplating compelling people to give up their private property to home Ukr refugees.

That reads like a Mike Skinner rap

If Seamus is earning 2k a month net and is spending 1k a month in rent then he'll get no sympathy from me. Or most people.

As I told you yesterday, he should be spending between 400-600 a month on a flatshare or houseshare.

Yeah, f**ck you, Seamus. You could cut back and save a few quid a year by sharing a room with 47 Brazilians!

Also, Seamus, please financially support every prussian, cushion, belabussian, teletubby and Lilliputian that are filling up the country.

Also, and this can't be stressed enough, f**k you, Seamus.

No country has put a cap on how many they will take, so Ireland are not unique.

So the question is why has no country stated they will not put a cap?

Many reasons. There may come a time though when the countries doing the heaviest lifting will organically have to place a cap because they can't cope anymore, it's the reason at this moment in time they being pumped with EU money.

The main reason no one has put a cap on though is because a cap is also a target.

Not so long ago it was projected that 40,000 refugees would enter Ireland before the end of this month, that has been revised down considerably. If the door was slowly closing on a country there would be a rush to get there, we probably would have exceeded that figure by now. The optics of Ireland taking in relatively more than the majority of other countries in the EU is that it takes the pressure off us and puts it on them.

The reality is this is firmly an EU and European problem, if they are turned away in one country they will just go elsewhere, they can't just disappear, it is either managed someway fairly or it will just be a free for all.

The good news is, in the past week or so more are crossing back into Ukraine then coming out, the bad news is no one knows what exactly is going to happen in Ukraine so it could get very bad indeed.

I can see them having to cut off the blanket welfare entitlement or limit. As it is I reckon about 10% has been added in a few months to an already bulging welfare budget. There’s no way those kind of figures can be sustained. If 200k arrived and all are entitled to full welfare that’s double the current state expenditure. Quick back of a fag packet calculation would tell you we can’t sustain this.

Why doesn't the Irish government (using your money, naturally) just start building homes and hospitals and schools in India that are needed in ireland, lash out the standard social welfare rates while they're at it?

Or any other place you care to mention.

Because, in practical terms, it is precisely the same result as what they're doing all ready. A house that should have alleviated the housing crisis has a family of whoever move in. No benefit to Irish people. An extra hospital bed that should alleviate the healthcare situation, is occupied by whoever. No benefit to Irish people. So on.

(Oh but we need them for the hospitals, they say, despite the mass exodus of practically all Irish medical students abroad because they've been undercut by cheaper foreign labour, and despite the system getting worse every year...la la la)

As off the wall as it sounds, it truly is the equivalent of taking your money and spending it for the benefit of other people in bladdy nepal. The only difference is the plane journey.

Same for the ukrainians. Just take Mickey McClueless's money and fund an entire miniature nation on the Polish border. Mickey gets the same value for his work in the end, bugger all.

She changed her mind. Said the place was served poorly by public transport! Bless her, if only her party were in govt.

Following day Ryan said he'd examine the feasibility of increasing the public transport as Ukrainian refugees would find it awkward to commute for services, or words to that effect.

Another example of Irish taxpayers putting up with poor services of all kinds and miraculously there's talk of improvement because of the current influx of Ukrainian refugees.

Yet previously there was money for nothing.

This I think is why people here rightly are having a gripe at the system.

Ah yes, you see THIS immediate crisis for foreign people and the government tripping over themselves to solve it cannot, MUST NOT, be compared to Irish people's housing crisis that has dragged on for an eternity with nary a f**ck given by the same government.

Completely different crises, you see.

THIS crisis is an opportunity to fill up the country with yet more people on fast forward to increase property prices, whereas the other crisis generates property prices by leaving it alone. Same, but different, but the same, but different.

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Admire anyone that does undertake it, they can well afford it unlike the vast majority of us. What’s annoying is virtue signallers like Mcentee using it for attention and likes then reneging 5 minutes later.

I know she is extremely dim but even She knew when publicly pledging her “offer” where her house was located and that transportation etc was going to be an issue.

How long before we see similar here?