Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

We should be concerned because we already have high numbers of children in classes and problems in certain areas where children cannot get places in their local schools.

Also I would imagine it will be hard on teachers to teach kids with very little English.

It will pose huge problems for kids with no English. Classrooms are very eclectic places with a range of existing problems. Walk into any mixed ability classroom now and you will see that teachers are already at the pin of their collars trying to adopt different styles of teaching for different learners. The sad reality of all this, is that teachers will not have the time to give extra tuition to these kids in mainstream class, nor should they be pressured to do so. The refugees will have to be taken for extra classes. If I'm not mistaken, schools only have a certain amount of special educational needs hours so an increase will be required! Funny that these increases are not always available for our own but now they will be created out of thin air! Always remember, where some are being advantaged, others are being disadvantaged. The double standards are appalling.

The government are ploughing on with all this and they don't give a fiddlers about what the common man or woman think. It's pure contempt, we are viewed as shite on their shoes. It's a disgrace. Our government are a disgrace. As other posters have said, the anger is palpable......... What the government and media are spouting is not the same as what the common man or woman are saying on the ground, they can't keep covering over the tensions are are now heightened in the community's up and down the Island of Ireland. CAN THE GOVERNMENT STOP CREATING PROBLEMS FOR OUR PEOPLE PLEASE.

Saw him interviewed over the weekend, all the usual positivity guff, allowing Ukrainian Students continue their higher education, opening up access to supports, similar to SUSI grants, full time Helpline being opened, available for 6 months, "Could be Extended", the best line, " We must curtail Putin from hampering Ukraines Next leadership in advancing their Education", the man is so full of crap he's become a parody of himself. Can we imagine the uproar when Little Johnny and Mary arrive back to college in October to discover their accommodation gone.

Has an official time limit been given to Ukrainian refugees housed in hotels as to how long they can stay there, and similarly for those in people's (holiday/second/own) homes?

What happens if the war drags on for years or if they simply don't want to return to the pile of rubble that was their homeland?

We've barely enough capacity in schools

Nope, as luck with have it and a fortunate bout of timing we are under subscribed. 25,000 in primary and 16,0000-18,000 in secondary apparently.

1000s of Ukrainians have all ready started school.

Primary have the best part of 2 months left, as for what's the point in starting them in school, I'd thought that would be obvious, no? 😕

...the whole process is completely fcuked, again, this is a common outcome in human history, we only do what needs to be done, when war breaks out, do we actually want to maintain human existence on the planet! just create the fcuking money in order to create a better society for all, this limitation bullsh1t is just that! this would benefit most if not all and boost economies, so just fcuking do it!

Calm down lad.

They are talking about maybe having maybe 180 properties ready within 6 months. Chances are they probably don't exist anyway or there is something drastically wrong with them.

If they spent an hour ringing people back this morning they would have had that amount by 10 O'Clock.

Great for the school if they were struggling with numbers that usually only goes on way unless they are fortunate which it appears they now are. 👍️

The education side of things is very worrying. All various parts to it. You've got student accomodation being used for 3 months for refugees which is utter BS because this crap isn't going to be over in 3 months. We'll then have them out voicing opinions, on strike like in DP when meals didn't suit them, and digging their heels in, refusing to move. In 3 months Theshold and the likes will have them well versed in their rights, so we've got thousands of Irish students around the country getting offers of placements but with nowhere to live.

Expecting schools and Irish children to take the weight of teaching non-English speaking kids on board. Not to mention packed capacity. Absolutely absurd. For a few weeks of novelty, our kids will be coming home with Ukrainian words because teacher thought it would settle them in kind of craic. My children have been subjected to this crap already. We lived in an area where a large DP hotel/units exsisted. Large amount of kids attended my kids school. At first it was a trickle, but the floodgates opened as time went on. Regular classes were interrupted with kids who had no English and teachers trying to deal with that. If the same speaking kids were out in a table together to communicate, DP parents moved swiftly to shout racism. Classes were disruptive, obviously, you've got kids who are frustrated with having to sit and not have a scoobie at what's going on, then lashing out. And try as Irish parents did, party invites, playdates, and activities were always refused by those in DP. Parents invited those parents for coffee mornings, nah. They refused to integrate. And that's only a primary side of things.

And it's not all women and children. My son happened to be socialising on a bar/restaurant last week. Upstairs had a 30 bed hotel. Some of the occupants introduced themselves in the bar, through Google translate and broken English. 18/19/20 year old young men, Ukrainian.

Is it ironic that your user icon is the ghost of kyiv, but you don't want to let the Ukrainian children go to school.

I see this as a positive opportunity to get funds to increase school capacity.

Alot of schools are already packed to capacity. For our local school it took over 10 years to get much needed additional classrooms built. I honestly cannot see how schools can cope with large numbers of additional kids with complex and varied needs in already squashed classrooms.

I have no doubt the government will force schools to take these kids without any consideration of how schools are going to cope.