Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

If in an alternative reality if we were invaded and you were dropped into a foreign country, you'd well be able to sustain yourself and your 3 kids with no help?

The vast majority are just like everyone else, their "wealth" is in their home, work, social circles, educational circles, family, friends, etc. You know exactly like you and me but they lived in a different country. That country is now trying it's best to stave off Soviet Expansion, deal with a collapsed economy and it's own rather massive refugee problem.

So no it's a bit more serious than they left behind a few belongings.

I know the vast majority will be poor. But it is possible some have large bank balances - even you know this is possible.

We've been trying to get my daughter into a secondary school for the last 5 years. Since second class. Every year we get a call to say, not even a sorry but "we have to RIP UP your application and you can apply again next year"

They have taken 24 Ukrainian children in this month not a bother.

I'm not angry as I can't even think of what you have to go through to move countries after being shelled to bits. But still I'm thinking in the back of my head, what a load of my hole.

40 min trek every morning now. She's not entitled to go there but it kind of sucks to be honest.

We care, but we don't care enough for it to be the detriment of our own society. As time goes on it will only get worse. That's the reality. Your way of thinking is not representative of the rest of the Irish population so don't force it on us.

Considering that the majority of Ukraine's towns are totally unscathed from the war, including the entire western part of the country (2 or 3 times the size of ireland?), you'd have to wonder why don't we just pay to temporarily house them there rather than here?

Everyone I’ve spoken to about this is angry about it. Not with refugees. With the government. It’s been building for a long time though. Years before this crisis. Irish people are being sh*t on from a great height for a long long time going back to the financial crash.

I don’t think that’s deniable to be honest.

Salads and Bikes for all. We're grand.

Like a lot of other refugees who have come here supposedly poor but have cars and enjoy holidays abroad despite living off 20 odd euros per week .

The Danes have the right idea pay towards your stay

Country is a kip. Work your hole off and just get robbed left right and centre.

I'm told here everyday if I vote for anyone else they'll just tax you more and take everything you worked up over the years and ruin the country.

But for the last 40 years of my existence all I've been is robbed while every tom dick and harry seems to get looked after and the country just gets worse and worse. Nothing for the middle man, welfare increases year on year for all and more cash for the millionaires. Refugee?? No bother mate house there for ya.

They take everything from anyone that has it and fling it around like there's no tomorrow. Exactly like I'm told what will happen if I vote for someone else. I'm not buying it anymore. Full off horse shite they are. Take and just piss it away.

They also seem to find billions in back of drawers when they want a pat on the back.

My one vote won't make a difference but FG, FF, Labour, Greens all the **** I've voted for over the years they can all go **** themselves.

EDIT: And everytime they always try spin it around to shift the blame on the people, yes we the people are the ones that cause the mess. Ask my bollocks.

Nothing to do with sponging, it's the way the **** heads in government can all of a sudden cure the homeless crisis. Just not for their own people. 500 hundred new buildings identified all of a sudden, no caps on purchasing new build social houses, planning to be bypassed. Load of bollox.

I welcome all people in genuine need, couldn't even begin to imagine what it's like and I won't pretend.

Same like when when they said a while back for all the people in DP that after a few months no matter genuine or not they'll have their own door accommodation.

Just doesn't add up. No wonder people are pissed off.

Like I said. KIP

Where did you source those figures from? My understanding is that Fingal has the highest % of foreigners on the social housing list at ~50%. It’s significantly less in other local authorities.

Regardless, it’s an indictment of a system that enabled people to move here, who are not economically self-sufficient.

What outcome would outrage achieve? It’s not going to magic up houses for Irish people stuck on the lists for years, is it?

Personally, I think it’s symptomatic of a failing immigration system. We should be screening for people who are likely to be economically self-sufficient, and yes filtering out those that are likely to be a burden on the state.

This pertains of course to economic migration.