What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

It's a silly argument for the anti-EU crowd. The spread of European population to Ireland isn't any kind of threat, because we share a commonality with regards to western philosophy and the impact of Christianity on social development. Typically, Europeans share the same basic values regarding personal freedoms, most morality, etc.

When it comes to foreign (as in not native/originating to Europe) populations, there's not much to be done there. Anyway natural immigration would provide that influence anyway.

The problem with his argument is that it ignores the control that any particular nation has over it's own development, and how that nation can regulate the influence of those foreign groups. Now, the Irish government (or our political elite) has repeatedly shown their inability to put Irish people first, and to control the establishments of enclaves, similar to the same failures in other European nations, but there's some hope that as other European nations cop on, so too will the Irish. If only to copy them, which is something our politicians tend to do anyway.

Ireland needs Europe. Anyone talking about leaving the EU has zero comprehension as to how our economy operates. Yes, we have strong links with the US, and generally, it's the US multinationals that tend to get all the attention, but we've also got a huge amount of investment from European companies, along with investors into Irish companies, who would pull out if Ireland left the EU. Also most of the US companies are here because we are part of the EU... sure, our tax laws help significantly, but our connections with Europe are incredibly attractive. Lose that connection, and it would be much more difficult to retain those companies.

In any case, we need the EU for a simpler reason. This is a world of giants. The US, China, the EU, etc.. coalitions of countries because economically, small independent nations fare poorly in negotiations over trade and general diplomacy. The few small nations who can stand alone successfully have managed to do so by offering services built up over decades or centuries... something Ireland has not done. So, any talk about leaving to EU is utterly retarded.. and would lead Ireland back into the 1950s as our economy buckles, and we have to pay higher rates on imports into our island on the boundary of Europe.

Oh, I completely agree. The EU should never have been allowed to start regulating culture, and becoming some kind of leader on morality or humanitarian causes. It should have stuck to just being the EEC.

As for the shift in Europe, definitely yes, many people are not happy... but Europe is not Ireland. Entirely different environment and levels of exposure here vs there. Europeans have had to deal with migrant violent crime, organised crime, human trafficking, expansion of drug related crime (migrants acting as mules and organisers), terrorism, social conditioning, violent political protests (by foreign political groups), and ever increasing rises in costs.. (etc etc etc)

What have Irish people experienced? We're so far behind the curve... it's coming, but most Irish people are oblivious to what's been happening in Europe, because RTE doesn't report it, except in the most shallow of ways.

I've been to Africa many times, great memories, beautiful people and many amazing cultures. Lesotho is a particular favourite of mine, been there 4 times

That's because places and scenery tend to be static. People look away from the grimy, cruel, harsh lives that people lead and focus on the beautiful scenery instead.

Still, I have to wonder though. It's hard to look anywhere in African cities to ignore the squalor, the poverty, etc. Africa is beautiful in the countryside, or some of the small townships, but the cities are pretty dingy places. Sure, the tourist and wealthy areas are gorgeous, but.. they're obviously fake in comparison with the remainder of the environment.

Kinda hard to do when your posts amount to vague soundbites lacking any real definition.

No place is without problems, including our own 🙂

Lesotho is a truly beautiful place, with some of the most amazing scenery you will ever come across though I wouldn't recommend doing the mountain drives at night, in a thunder storm, that was squeaky bum time lol

I didn't meet any criminals though I promise to keep an eye out the next time I go

I had a similar Damascene conversion back in 2002 after being exposed to Southern Africa with work