"Green" policies are destroying this country

Talking about LNG banning is not "attempting to ban gas"

The Irish green party are not just talking about banning LNG. They have introduced an Oireachtas bill attempting to do just that.

All natural gas is not LNG, but unlike the Irish green party perhaps you could answer where are we to get this natural gas other than LNG that is recognised by our own regulator as a secure source and is in compliance with E.U directives ?

If you cannot do that, then if the greens get their way on their proposed legislation to ban ALL forms of LNG, then the only other E.U. recognised transitional energy source left is nuclear. It really could not be any simpler.

As far as I can see the only reason that motion was put forward by SF was because of the various fcukups by the green party in their attempts to railroad their bizarre ideas through without proper consultation.

One thing, this debacle has done is made sure the green party's chance of being re-elected are zero

As to to the timeline for the final proposal. Looks like the greens are not going to get their way regardless

An Taoiseach Micheál Martin stated afterwards that “There is no ban on the use of turf in rural Ireland and there will be no ban for the remainder of the year.”

Well considering things were already well and truly up **** creek without a paddle, Martin adding a single comment to the debacle of the Green Party running around like headless chickens really ain't going to make anything worse.

Ryan already survied one leadership heave from Catherine Martin. (It seemed like an attempted water melon coup with Labour types who had joined the Greens after Labour imploded trying to do the same thing to the Greens as had been done to Labour by the Stickies.) It would be interesting to see if he survives another. However, Ryan and some other Greens have that dead-eyed look of fanatics.

Regards...jmcc

From memory I think the lack of duty on aviation kerosine is written into various IATA treaties, so landing fees are normally used instead as a source of revenue.

The Stickies were very active in the media and the Ned Stapleton cumman of the Stickies and Eoghan Harris dictated a lot of RTE news output. The Greens have always had favourable coverage from RTE even before Labour imploded in 2016. Think that Ryan was minister for communications in the 2007 government and this one. Some in the media are also pro-Green. Even FFers in the 2007 government acknowledged that Ryan was a good minister.

There is a kind of ideological true believer element in the Greens and an attitude that they know best despite many of them having no relevant science background. When Labour imploded, a lot of the votes that wold have gone to Labour shifted to the Greens. The cult of Saint Greta also attracted a lot of naive voters who wanted a kind of secular Doomsday religion. It effectively created two Green parties within the Greens.

The leadership challenge to Ryan was effectively one faction trying to take it over. The problem for this faction was that the Greens had already dealt with a split in 2007 over going into government with FF. It lost many of the Greens who were against going into government with FF but kept a core group of realists who understood that to get Green policies into law, it was necessary to be in government, The challenge failed and some of the losing faction left the Greens.

Some of the more Left leaning ex-Greens from the 2007 split set up their own party, Fis Nua, but it failed to achieve any electoral success. Unlike the Continental European Greens, the Irish Greens are more to the Right than the typical European Green party. Someone described them as FG on bikes and it wouldn't be too far from the truth. Those social connections and the fact that the Greens replaced Labour as a kind of "none of the above" party for people who didn't want to vote FF/FG/Labour (SF not being a major party at the time) meant that they were going to get a lot of favourable media coverage.

Regards...jmcc

It`s legal but its a bit of a farce in a supposed democracy that someone who was reject by voters in a general election is then appointed as a Minister on the back of 79 first preference votes.

Eamon Ryan is literally the Healy-Rae embodiment of Dublin:

-Overly passionate about trivial things

-Followers of quack science

-A list of gaffes as long as your arm (sleeping during the Dail session, dropping the n-bomb)

-Only dimwits vote for them - but a loyal following of dimwits nonetheless

People of his constituency/county should be embarrassed.

Those are definitely the similarities, but there is one glaring difference. By any measure, Ryan is a bit of a dimwit whereas the Healy-Raes (particularly Michael) are calculating and very intelligent. The Healy-Raes play to their audience (no trace of their mother's American accent for instance), whereas Ryan is of his audience. He is the type who vote for him. The Healy-Raes are more of a highly successful cynical act.