Russia - threadbanned users in OP

It is not in Biden's remit to negotiate away the right of another country. It would be like the UK invading us and after capturing a third of the country, the EU coming along to negotiate a solution that suits the UK.

How can you negotiate with Putin. He sits at one end of his long table telling you his demands, threatening nuclear war.

Load of rubbish. Who invaded who. Germany, Austria and Hungry mainly hoped this would go away. The rest of the former Eastern bloc countries Poland, Czech, Slovakia, the Baltic states, even neutral countries like Sweden and Finland saw the danger straight away. They knew if Putin got away with this some of them were next. France diddered as it always seems to do. This may suit the US as it gives a back door to a solution, but Macron knew after his visit he was wasting his time. The US intelligence was spot on from the start. The only pity was the weapons were not there earlier.

The West actually taught that when Russia invaded it was game up. They advised Zelenski to leave Kyiv and set up a government in exile or Western Ukraine. But Zelenski stood his ground and awaited his faith. The West could not actually believe how poor the Russian military machine. It was incompetent at all levels. It's technology was poor. It's troops morale was poor. It's leadership was poor. It's intelligence was poor. It's logistics and supply were poor. It never developed air superiority over Ukraine, which was hard to believe. As of yesterday it losses approximately are

875 Tanks.

2250 Armoured vehicles.

180 Planes.

150 Helicopters.

410 Artillery systems

I almost forgot the two boateens.

This is all Russia doing. Nobody asked them to invade Ukraine. Putin decided on a land and population grab as his own country is drying. The population is dropping by a million a year he has forced nearly a million if the Ukrainian population into Russia. He has kidnapped 100k+ Ukrainian children's who were handed over to Russian families.

So stop the propganda

Another one that didn’t read my post. You started by saying my post was a load of rubbish and then added a load of text which backed up what I said.

People need to stop saying ‘propaganda’ at every post they mildly disagree with. Obviously Putin started the war. Everything changed when the west saw how weak the Russian military was and level of support increased massively. The priority of this support is to degrade the Russian military, not to save Ukraine. There are plenty of countries in the world now being ethnically cleansed and getting zero support from the west. Supporting Ukraine is correct, I am just commenting on the motives.

NATO should have declared a no fly zone in February before the Orcs had time to invade. As it is now, Ukraine must be fast-tracked to join NATO if Russia declares war on Ukraine.

The EU needs some seriously tough, binding laws on media ownership that are part of basic qualification for EU membership. Hungary would need to be put on notice to comply or have accelerated measures to eject them from the EU.

Speaking of losses, the Russians have lost 22 tanks and 27 APCs in one day. Total tank losses are now 1,008.

I am just commenting on the motives.

Like hell you are

There are plenty of countries in the world now being ethnically cleansed and getting zero support from the west.

Not this shite again.

There are plenty of countries in the world being ethnically cleansed which are getting support from the West. The West however is not and can never be the entires world's Watchdog. Where are all the wealthy Asian and middle Eastern countries in these wars? Why are the "west" constantly expected to clean up the **** of despots and dictators killing their own and each other in places millions of miles from the "West"?

So why would the West support Ukraine and more importantly Ukrainian people as opposed to some other spot on the planet? Does that question even need to be answered ffs.

The Ukraine is part of the West. It is part of Europe. The Russian invasion not only seeks to annihilate Ukraine and its people, it also threatens to destabilise the entire European region, with likley further "special operations" by Russia and ultimately the threat of nuclear war which will not just impact the "west" but the entire world.

Meanwhile many many countries in the West has taken in millions of fleeing Ukrainians and are doing what they can for those who are fighting for their countries and their own survival. And what again of all those wealthy Asian and Middle Eastern countries? Nada.

And at the same time they turned down free Russian passports and citizenship to the point Russia stopped offering free passports in Crimea ,

This crap and I mean that kindly is root and branch Wallace Daly nonsense.

The notion that peace can be achieved , by what giving Russia 30 percent of Ukraine and sending zelensky off to another country so a Russian sanctioned government can be instilled in Ukraine.

It's hog wash on any metric.

And I'd say you subscribe to the notion that Ukrainian people could never have possibly wanted to join the EU and it all must be some dastardly EU plan to disrupt Russia.

And NATO were the core of the problem.

None of this has any relation to one man's insane views of owning and entire land and restoring some dream of a block from times gone by.

These views can be deconstructed even on the most fundamental level.

But Biden. But America, but why didn't they try. Zzzz

And another jet and 9 UAVs

Not really, there is a bit more nuance to it than that. Issues around the EU/German gas supply was voiced before trump so he didn't "predict" anything.

Trump wanted the EU to buy more US gas, despite the US export processing being maxed out and there being issue with EU infrastructure to take delivery of LNG and transport it around the EU.

With US cracked gas being more expensive.

Then there is his stance on NATO funding.

There is also the concern of being energy dependent on the US under Trump.

He was laughed at, because people can see through his fake concern for the EU being dependent on his pal Putin.

Heart warming to see how Russian 'troops' go to such efforts to help their wounded and striken comrades.