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Top Gun: Maverick

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  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    One thing that seems to be missing from the new Top Gun are F35's.





  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    Word is that Cruise didn't fly the jets himself but sat in the back seat.

    I wonder why they didn't let Cruise fly the jets ? He could of paid a few million for insurance that would have covered any accidents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,620 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Those jets cost around $65m each never mind the insurance costs. He was never going to be allowed fly one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,167 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    For some reason Top Gun never did it for me way way WAAAAY back in the day. Don't know why. I do realise I am much in the minority. But I am still looking forward to this.

    It will be interesting to see how this plays in 2022. The world is a VERY different place. America is a VERY different place. When the first one was released RONALD REAGAN was president of the US. I know nothing about the new movie but I wonder how they will tie it in to today's world. An "America, F*ck yeah" approach would be a tough sell outside of the US (And China is the 2nd biggest market in the world). It would cause much eye-rolling internationally. And yet an inspection of the imperialistic nature of might equals right blah blah blah would not be a Top Gun movie.

    While the latest trailer seems to indicate it's a generational thing I'm assuming they will also delve into drones and the potential use of AI (Although not to the extent of the truly brilliantly awful "Stealth").

    It will also be interesting to see how the flying sequences hold up. They look amazing in the trailer but I wonder will viewers find it..... "pedestrian" compared to the latest CGI blockbuster. And I do see the irony in saying "pedestrian" when referring to real fighter plane footage. Don't get me wrong, this is not a "CGI SUX" post. It has its place. It's just that it's been over 35 YEARS since the first one and effects and tastes have changed.

    Look, it won't make a bajillion dollars but I hope it does well. I hope to catch it in the cinema (I LOVED the flying sequences in Dunkirk)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,815 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I think people will appreciate that it looks more "real" , CGI stuff tends to be bloated to the point of it being cartoonish and lacking any consequences. Plus there hasnt been a lot of dog fight heavy movies in the last 10 years so there should be a novelty factor.

    My question is see it in a shaky seat cinema or just a big screen?

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I know this might cause an eye-roll, but I think Top Gun got a bit of a retrospective bump via the internet and all those "are Iceman and Maverick in love?" homoerotic readings made out of fun and boredom. Whether you believed it or not, it did seem to get more eyeballs on a movie hitherto forgotten a little in the public consciousness; as did the relatively early passing of Tony Scott back in 2012.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭Shred


    I haven’t seen the original in years and remember it to be a typical 80’s cheesy as hell actioner; I plan to watch it again before the new one but I’m not expecting it to have aged well.

    The new one looks spectacular from a visual/aural sense at least and is absolutely one for the big screen for me once it arrives.



  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    That's if you buy them new.

    But old jets from the 70s and 80s wouldn't cost anywhere near that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Lady Gaga has done a song for it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    I think this and Elvis are the two movies that have the best shot to get cinemagoers of a certain age back to the cinema post-COVID. I don't foresee it doing huge numbers but ideally within Dune's range ($45m US opening weekend, $400m worldwide total gross).



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  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    Early reviews of the new Top Gun are looking very good.

    Even if the film isn't any good the aviation scenes on their own would be enough for me to want to go and see it.

    https://www.joe.ie/movies-tv/early-reactions-call-top-gun-maverick-the-perfect-sequel-and-best-film-of-the-year-747235



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Great stuff.

    A pity we dont have an Imax in Ireland, might try to see this in the UK in June.



  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    We have a fake Imax digital cinema in Dublin.

    But I don't think there is any point seeing it in Imax given that they didn't use any real Imax 70mm cameras in the film.

    Dunkirk is probably the closest we will get to seeing dog fights with fighter planes in Imax quality.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,039 ✭✭✭✭bnt


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    To murder men and gie God thanks?
    Desist for shame, proceed no further
    God won't accept your thanks for murder.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Weirdly, that they got the power ballad right makes me think this film might bring the right kind of energy.



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    I’ve seen him say during interviews that he did indeed pilot the jets himself, and various articles released over the last few weeks state that he did so to.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/film/top-gun-maverick-2-release-date-plot-cast-tom-cruise-uk-tom-cruise-val-kilmer-b997985.html?amp



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Any cinemas around the country showing Top Gun before Maverick is released?

    The most I have seen of the movie is the first 15 minutes - every time I sit down to watch it over the years “something” happens to interrupt it.

    I’m going to watch it start to finish no matter what before I see the new film but I’m hoping one of the cinemas in Galway will show it.

    I did phone Palas to inquire but the guy said no (if they do it will be last minute decision and very limited showings but not likely).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Jennifer Connelly is 51, Cruise finally getting a love interest near his age

    Well I assume she is playing his love interest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    This is tracking to be the biggest US opening weekend of Cruise's career: https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-box-office-forecast-top-gun-maverick-and-bobs-burgers/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭santana75


    They showed an extended scene from this before Dr. Strange 2 and even though the original Top Gun never did anything for me, I have to admit what I saw looked fairly impressive. Judging by that scene it has the potential to be very good.



  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    That sounds like a very generic Lady Ga Ga song.



  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    This is my favourite trailer for the film because it has all the aerial shots that they have released so far.

    I'm not bothered about the story or Tom Cruise the aerial shots on their own are for enough me to want to see this film in the cinema.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,167 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover



    And that's a quality OTT (Intentionally I assume) power ballad from GaGa. That's 100% montage music :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Some stunning reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. 100% after 44 reviews so far.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,807 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The flight sequences simply from the trailers look like a quantum leap over the ones in the original. There's a LOT to say about Tom Cruise, but his commitment to pushing the boundaries of spectacle cinema is a trait I genuinely admire.

    Joseph Kosinski is also a great visual filmmaker, so a very smart choice for a film such as this. Glad to hear it appears to have paid off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Apple and oranges, the first film used all real footage, 2 actual missile firings and the rest were models. This has a good chunk of CGI for the flight scenes. Even the F-18s are CGI in some shots.

    Even ripping off a bit of the sub par Iron Eagle 2 finale.

    TBH I'm amazed it's rating so well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    In the first film they could barely fit the 35mm cameras onto the planes plus those cameras could only record for about 10 minutes at a time before they needed to be reloaded which couldn't be done in the air.

    But with the digital cameras they are using now they pretty much have unlimited recording time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,276 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Are you just going by the trailer or have you managed to see a press screening?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    As a heads up, from the non spoiler review I've seen.. this film might be laden with easily spoiled scenes/story points



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Top Gun has a plot??



  • Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Really hate all the close in dogfighting rubbish when in reality modern jet fighters are mach 2 rockets firing guided missile from beyond visual range at targets designated bt an awacs several 100km away... just as annoying as all those space combat films that think spaceships will be fighting at ww2 speeds and human input will be able to keep up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    If Tom ever does a space movie he'll probably literally go into space to film it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    To be clear and a fair he'll probably literally mine the ore and refine it and build it into a space elevator so that he can shoot a scene of him running up along the outside of it into space 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Hearing really good things but the proof of the pudding will be the eating. Looking forward to seeing this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Big Gerry




    If they were going to show what real dogfighting looks like all the pilots would see is a small dot in the distance when they are trying to shoot down another plane.

    That would be realistic but it wouldn't make good cinema,



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    There has been something of a rumour that he would do something in zero-gravity, though I suspect that has been just that - a rumour. And not like that hasn't been done before; IIRC Apollo 13 shot its spaceship footage from the famous "vomit comet"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,509 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    So, in essence your complaint is that Top Gun demonstrates the skillset that pilots learn in Top Gun! A school who’s very existence is predicated around close in dog fighting. I’m almost sure there’s some text in the original explaining it’s foundation owing to the losses the Navy suffered in Vietnam; where pilots only had BVR training and no guns.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,066 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    I'm guessing Tom Crusies character will die thus a new guy will take his place to keep the legacy alive



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,422 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    There was, top gun is specifically for learning dog fighting. Not the sort of movie I’d be looking for plot holes in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I'm wary of thinking he'd let go of a film franchise. I was thinking to myself he might do something like that for mission impossible.. like a good few films back at this point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,509 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones



    Which was the plan with Renner apparently. Also see the Bourne series. Poor Jeremy.

    I’d bet that there’s no more to Top Gun after this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    I don't think there realistically could be really. At least without it getting dull.

    It's easier getting away with having a series of film like Bourne, MI etc - when they are about spies and epionage, different villains, different motives etc. And in the main for the Bourne & MI films, it works. But not so easy when the main draw of the film is a jet. There is not a whole lot of variety that can be applied.

    I am really looking forward to the Maverick film - mainly out of nostalgia, and I loved the first one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,815 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    this film is a confluence of factors but I dont think anyone wants sequels etc. Oddly the first film never meant that much to me, in terms of 80's films I doubt it would even make my top 20 but its the one sequel I really want to see.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Woah! 97% on RT from 156 reviews!


    Early days but still..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,394 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Just out of this. Loved it. Even better than the first one. I laughed I cried. It was brilliant. Will have to go see it again. There was some parts where I got it hard to hear the talking but maybe that was just me.

    It has actually put me in a mood to watch Star Trek Enterprise Friendship. Not going to say why but there us a really cool scene at the beginning of the film.

    And buy what a beautiful plane it is too. I was looking up after what fastest any human has ever gone is and no one has done that speed in Earth's atmosphere yet. Out of it yes they have gone faster but with space being so vast it seems less of am event and is basically slow for space travel. We have a long way to go there.

    The film flew buy.

    10 out of 10.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Right. Back from seeing it in the IMAX. It was .. grand.. like.

    It's a follow-up to Top Gun and has lots and lots of nods and follow-ups to Top Gun.

    How are the stories.. well, there's probably three elements:

    • the pilots - done grand, didn't feel as ground breaking as the original
    • the big story - this was awkward because it felt like it was the biggest struggle to create A-Big-Deal (TM) to have to fight but they pulled something off.
    • the interpersonal story - again done grand, didn't feel as ground breaking as the original

    The coolest parts were by-far the flying around in the airplanes.


    So...

    damn but they make flight with pilots feel like it's on it's last legs.. this all combines with films like 2005s Stealth and more modernly 2014s, Good Kill (woah.. that was 2014?!?!) to really make the skills of these pilots feel like they are on the out.

    Poor aul Ice Man. Was that cancer? I think that was cancer he died of. I dunno though.

    I was absolutely buzzing when they got out the F14. That was cool! Don't care what any of the rest of yis say. Also the combat with these .. Fifth Gen fighters.. that gave the fights a feel of an edge.

    The big story reaching.. really was reaching but I don't care. I mean yeah sure.. why not just Tomahawk all those known fixed position air defences too.. but shur.. meh.. it lent to the story.


    Strong agree on the time. It absolutely whizzed by.


    Last note on the business side of things.. if my audience was anything to go by.. skewing older and not a hugely filled cinema.. I'm not sure this film is gonna make bank.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Thinking about it.. I avoided a rewatch of the original before going in.. but a rewatch before going in might have been a benefit



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