Kilkenny GAA Thread

That's life Henry has to be loyal to the team he trains and I honestly think it's hard for him v Kilkenny but he has a job to do.

What a trash comment. Cody was a disgrace. Henry a gentleman as always.

How do you how much contact there has been in the past 6 weeks, whether Cody has visited the house/family etc. You think he didn’t go to the funeral and spoke to him there??

I'm sure you know that isn't what I was suggesting

Absolute waffle calling the man a pig and no surprise with your constant negativity on this page.

I would have little doubt from various sources as to Cody's inter-personal skills. Obviously when you are winning it's "ruthlessness", "single-mindedness" and all the rest of it. When not winning it's interpreted differently. But he is what he is.

Should he gave "fcuked off in the last 3/4 years ago"? Maybe, but again it's a sign of the megalomania probably in anyone who has success. He'll still want that "greatest ever achievement" of one more win. Again, it's the great strength of stubbornness and ego emerging as weakness when things are not going well.

Where I'd gave more sympathy for Cody is the question of the influence that the outrageously untimely deaths of people should have on Cody's approach to Shefflin after the gane. Cody, in that role, is ultimately an advocate for the Kilkenny team. Expressions of sympathy are private matters and have their place. But rightly or wrongly (in respect of the actual match, refereeing decision, and even the 'Shefflin as traitor to his county' angle) he is entitled to look p*ssed off. He never claimed to be Mr Gregarious or the Master of Banter. So that's what you'll get. But I think it's unfair to imply that he should have approached Shefflin differently because of bereavements.

Firstly on Cody, he's a 100% committed Kilkenny man, and lives and breathes for the success of Kilkenny. So irrespective of what went on, on the sideline, in my opinion, he just cant compute, how Henry would manage a team against his native county Kilkenny. That is sacrilege to Cody.

On Cody as a manager he has many many flaws, but i think he should walk away after this year, because i don't think people understand the standard of hurler the county is producing and asking him to win all-irelands with. If we were in a position where it was a close thing between winning and losing all-irelands, then the manager style etc might come into it, but being honest, its far far from that. The hurlers are just not there. People on here saying its Cody this and that, it could possibly be, but he cant mess up a team to a level that this side is hurling at. They are just average hurlers at best with a few decent ones.

Overall i thought it would have been daylight robbery if Galway lost that game, they were better than KK on the day. That's not saying they were good, because they weren't, two average teams to be fair. The pick of the two wouldn't come within 8 points of limerick.

Galway have played a tough game already and this was KKs first so there is some improvement in KK, and allowing that KK gifted Galway at least 6-8 points, and it was TJs first real game back this year, we have a better performance in this side. But not near enough to win an all-ireland or a semi final or even a quarter final if we get Waterford. And based on Clares performances recently, i don't think we could beat them either.

The keeper played too much short ball when in trouble when he should just have cleared it, but the outlet up the field wasn't there, nobody looking for it.

Mickey - did ok for his first big intercounty championship game.

I think we have the best full back in the country - Huw Lawlor was his usual assured self. And its not easy being that good on a full forward when the opposition have loads of time to play low ball into the full forward.

Tommy Walsh, has the hurling, has the pace, but insists on letting his man win the ball before he even tries, and is always second to the ball and then puts in a token effort to stop him. Its very frustrating to watch him. Because one modification to his game could make the complete difference.

Michael Carey - nice guy, but doesn't have the battling capabilities to be an intercounty wing back, just too soft.

Browne was way off the pace and got outplayed numerous times.

Deegan is a trier but does headless things at key times. From what i saw of the final play of the game, he didn't foul the forward, he won the ball which was in the air. But it went to a key decision because he wasn't marking his man in the first place.

Midfield were completely out of it. Didn't track there men, were just completely outclassed.

Mullen - this guy is lazy. Where others are just not good enough, this guy has it in spades but just doesn't put it in, he's lazy, doesn't fight to win ball, doesn't run hard enough and make himself available and make scores and tackles happen. This guy has the class to be another Eoin Larkin, but doesn't have the work rate.

Walter - old enough to know that he cant outrun younger lads at his age. Can win ball and should be there bringing the other forwards into the game by laying it off, yet insists on heading on his own. If he mixed it up he'd be far more effective.

Buckley - never recovered from the virus or injury he had a few years ago. Not the same player

Padraig - wasn't in this game and should have been far more involved. He's a lot older and wiser and should be able to link up and layoff ball better between himself Walter and Buckley and even TJ.

Billy Ryan - shades of a younger Eddie Brennan, and your hoping that some day the penny will drop and he'll just develop that nasty streak that completely changes Eddie into a great forward, but we still seem to be waiting and waiting.

Cody - a marked man and done very well, but for all the talent he has and the hurling nous, he needs to make things happen around him.

In general the biggest concern was the lack of work rate from everyone, hooking blocking tackling and man marking are 70% of Cody's game and were missing. That's a real concern. There is no drive in this team. They may be limited talent wise but that doesn't account for there lack of work rate.

KK didn't deserve the win and Galway were the better side, but i did think that Galway were left away with a lot of fouling, pulling back with the spare hand.

Just because Henry is from kilkenny does that mean he has to talk a job with Kilkenny when he is offered it?

No doubt he will want to manage Kilkenny down the line but hes an ambitious guy and wants to win and maybe he knew there was more potential with Galway than with Kilkenny currently.

This idea that he was offered a job and betrayed cody is nonsense. As for Galway paying him €100k, thats also nonsense. Galway GAA isnt in great shape financially and have a load of debt after buying a site in Athenry that now is worth half what they paid for it.

Winning Leinster and putting in a good performance in a semi I think is about all we can realistically hope for. Would want to be a very lucky draw in the semi to see them getting any further

Jaysus this is not great viewing for the U20s. A year to come up with a plan to cover Liam Collins inside and the best we come up with is Rowe and McDonald getting a run around.

That should have been a red for McGlynn. Led with the head straight at the head

100% a red. That last point was wide too and the first peno wasn't a free

We have given away so many frees with high tackles, I'd say there wasn't any emphasis on tackling in training.

We had the chances to win that in normal time, subs did well when they came in.

Why are all kilkenny teams the only teams still giving high hanging handpasses.

All that said great fight in fairness.

Fantastic heart shown, great win and super winning score from Joe Fitzpatrick