Waterford GAA Thread - Mod note post #1

I don't know if I agree, I think we dropped our heads alright and Tipp took advantage of that with a few scores at the end but I think tonight is a more accurate representation of the difference between the two teams. Tipp had 3/4 forwards that were very very good and we just couldn't hold them. Tipp also made far greater use of the extra man they dropped back, we were more reliant on individual moments or mistakes from Tipp.

While we would hope for 2/3 players to develop enough to play senior this wasn't an outstanding crop.

In all fairness to lads who take the reigns of these teams, they are expected to give up a lot of personal time to train and prepare these teams. They train regularly, they play challenge games and then they are asked to travel to the likes of Limerick and Clare on a Tuesday / Wednesday night - it is not as if they are just travelling out the road once or twice a week. That's why so many selectors are parents!!! Getting guys from outside the county is likely to prove even more difficult.

It is extremely frustrating to see two good competitive performances against Tipp and Limerick and then suffer two hammerings, all be they against the Munster Finalists. But unfortunately we need to remember that these lads are basically under 17 and it is easy for them to loose heart and concentration, and just wish for the game to end. Many of these lads know that they may never hurl for their county again, so when we start to be so critical, we need to remember this.

In the last 15 years we have been more competitive on an underage basis on a regular basis than we had for the previous 20 years , Ok we are not laden with Munster or All Ireland titles but every county (particularly in Munster) is putting vast resources into underage structures, so unless you are the likes of Cork with a massive pick and massive resources, domination is a thing of dreams.

One place we certainly could improve is putting more resources into "Coaching the Coaches" - finding lads who have a genuine interest and are willing to commit the time and start by integrating them into a system where they can learn from the likes of Cahill / Bevans etc., before letting them take actual charge of underage teams. We also need to put in place resources that can provide a consistent and developed Mental and Physical Preparation Programme for our young lads who are expected to compete with similar systems from other counties. - Unfortunately that might mean taking control from some of the bluffers currently in charge of organizing such structures, who appear quite happy to be able point the finger of blame in other directions.

yes I do I think the venue had a massive bearing on the result. It was a disadvantage to Cork in the context that it was a conceded home venue, and huge advantage to Clare in the sense that it was a neutral venue compared to playing them in a packed PUC

Tickets for the Clare match are up on Ticketmaster lads. Just got a terrace ticket for the west end. We need to try and travel in numbers to get behind the team. Could be a do or die match.

Just can’t see the numbers travelling to Clare especially a lot of those who made it to limerick . Hopefully we will be at least in top 3 after corks result anyway .

Have tickets for cork game been released to clubs?

Yeah and could have an effect on travelling support

Waterford ffs beat Cork please

joxer and Queally have both been there and done that as regards managing the u21s. As long as they continue to be overlooked for senior intercounty role can’t see them back in Waterford setup as club management is nearly more lucrative shiner ahearne was over the minors this year. With all due respect it must be his 3rd go at it in the last 20 years he’s not exactly a fresh face

where are the up and coming young coaches in the county? Or all the renowned ex-players from the 90s and noughties that the current minor and u20 crop would have grown up idolising?

I was also at that round robin game ; one of the worst match experiences ever.

Cusack Park is just as big a dump as Walsh Park (facility wise) ; I wouldn’t blame anyone for not travelling there.

I didn't know to laugh or cry. Couldnt remember a game with so many of our players going down injured.

Hopefully this trip will be a more enjoyable experience!

What you referring to ?

it's so weird we have kk tipp and cork's goat,i dont think anytime in history could we say that before

Only a Tipp win or draw over Limerick today would have an affect on us

Be some atmosphere up in Walsh Park next Sunday if we have the same weather as today

I couldn’t get to see the match but by all accounts, Gillane was lucky not to be red carded.

Limerick v Tipp - I've seen fellas sent off for less. Limerick were poor and still pulled away in the end, Tipp were out on their feet after 60 minutes, McGrath was immense. So win next week and we're through, simple as that.