Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

With regards to my analogy don't dwell on it. I meant the people can come and go as they please. However where people want to open their mail is entirely up to them, if they want to open them in the smoking sheds, in the eating area or inside the location at reception is again their decision. I'm not going to walk away every time someone wants to open a letter and secondly there are times when people will actually ask you to explain the contents of a letter or even assist in filling out their Census form!

The An Post application is quite easily done, photo copy of passport, photocopy of letter which they received at entry to Ireland at either the airport or ferry port and letter from centre stating that they are a resident there.

With regards to your other comments re bank charges etc I never mentioned that at all.

...once again, central banks can never ever ever run out of money, as is the case with the ecb! governments are nothing like households, as households do not have this ability, i.e. money creation. unfortunately since the euro zone is designed as so, expanding the public money supply, i.e. increasing deficit spending, is more complicated, but this is the only way out of this problem, but it must be agreed by all member states, in particularly major players such as germany and france. if this doesnt happen, we re probably all fcuked, including france and germany!

You may not agree with Mary, and I normally don't but she is actually telling it as it is. There might be a few small tweaks depending on the different locations but regardless, MC are being issued as well as bank accounts, job fairs are being held in reception centres, safe pass courses being organised, language classes, and NDLS are working on licences.

If you want to carry on and believe that the Ukrainian people and these centres are being run like DP / homeless shelters the answer is they're not.

We are doing it for other refugees and our own homeless.

Agree that health for example seems to be a perennial problem and the more money thrown at it, it still never improves.

I had a huge moment of realisation today watching Robert Watt speak to a Dail Committee. The sheer arrogance and contempt that was displayed towards elected officials was absolutely disgusting.

This is where our problems lie across health, housing and so on. How many senior civil servants exist like him, adverse to change unless it benefits them. Plenty I would guess.

Health was a huge problem before Covid, people should really have been out on the streets over it.

im open to correction here but as far as I remember and from my research now, a person issued with a medical card has a GP assigned to them..

So if a family coming from the Ukraine are to be given a medical card they would need to be assigned a GP….if a government official was seeking to obtain a GP for the Kovalenko family, a family of 5 and contact the XxxxxxX Medical Practice … to get told by the owner of said practice… “ sorry, we are over subscribed, sometimes our patients are waiting 7 working days from seeking an appointment to seeing a doctor so, no, in the interest of current patient care, we cannot accept any new patients..”

Jack shît the government or department of health could do…

my GP surgery, brilliant setup but too many patients, with at times outrageous lead ups from trying to make an appointment to the day of seeing a doctor….. I’ve already been told on enquiring to their front desk that they will be saying NO…reading the google reviews it’s the same… ‘ great doctors, but waiting too long between requiring an appointment to being able to get seeing a doctor… ‘. As in too many days and you can be 40 minutes after your appointment time on the day as in appointment 11.00 and don’t see your doctor until 11.40.

nothing negative about the care element , but oversubscribed and have recently lost a GP.

I had my first patient care with a Ukrainian refugee today. She was using Google translate. And after the first 3 attempts to understand even through Google translate (even through the 2nd one where I put my head down and pretended to snore) I didn't get it and had to ask her to see the Dr. And she didn't get that. It's a mess by our government

Potentially arrival of endemic animal diseases to our shores unchecked is a very big deal. Could be massively damaging to agriculture not too mention the obvious welfare issues. It’s not something to dismiss and virtue signal away which is how you appear to handle all issues and debate here.