Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

They do not fill out the same form as the Irish.

It's a 2 page document. If you scroll down you'll find the form is available in English, Ukrainian and Russian.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/asylum_seekers_and_refugees/the_asylum_process_in_ireland/coming_to_ireland_from_ukraine.html#:~:text=You%20should%20apply%20for%20your,the%20address%20on%20the%20form.

Quite different to the medical form application the Irish have to fill out.

https://www2.hse.ie/services/medical-cards/medical-card-application-process/how-to-apply-for-a-medical-card.html

Oh, I read it alright. The question was posed up further to demonstrate the difference between Ukrainians vs Irish. Not begrudgery as you suggest. Just a fact.

The fact of the matter is, there are quite a few hoops that a homeless, illiterate Irish person has to jump though to get a medical card. Why can they not get temporary cards issued too?

The main thing missing from that form is the means section.

IT SHOULD BE THERE!.

In my experience, and I am allowed give my experience, people here are not given the slightest chance to even get a temporary medical card.

Cancer patients have to literally fight for a card.

I have a child with a long term illness. Life saving drugs are covered by the long term illness card. Monthly GP visits, month blood tests, and medication needed as extra say for an infection or ailment costs, and other equipment has to come out of my pocket. I am only a few euros over the threshold to get her a medical card. And I've applied and appeal every so often.

There are thousands in my position.

And do you think that in 9 months time they will declare their bank accounts in Ukraine? There are many professional people who have been declared refugees here, no one has an idea of their wealth and it will never be known. Meanwhile they have 9 months of not having to declare any earnings made here and still receive free medical care and medication.

People in direct provision have been scrutinised here. They get a paltry weekly allowance compared to what's on offer to a Ukrainian coming to stay here. Up until recently they were not allowed work. Vetting has been refused for many so they can't get certain jobs.

If the government came out with a decent set of plans going forward, for both DP and Ukrainians, we mightn't have much to say on this platform. But right now, there are Irish people who need help and feel they've been forgotten. We've got refugees that fled from other wars who are treated like prisoners.

There was no money in the pot for housing. Now there is. Suddenly we've increased our population which undoubtedly will out strain in that area. I know someone who is waiting for a colonoscopy for 8 months already, was offered an MRI in the interim because there is no end in sight on the list. Adding more to the list without investment is frightening tbh.

Of course these people should be given help. But opening floodgates to financial support, housing, healthcare in a very generous way is only an attraction for others to follow on. Why do we think we've got a huge influx of ukrainans all of a sudden, its hardly because of the scenery or the weather!

The money isn't being printed somewhere. It will have to be paid back. My children will have to pay this back in the form of ridiculous high taxes, years of waiting lists, and not being able to move out of home. Yes, the issues were there already, but we've added to them by being so loose with money and no plan whatsoever as to how it'll be all paid for.

It would be a cruel person not to have empathy for Ukrainians, and all refugees from war, but to live in a society where we can live side by side, there has to be a decent life given to all, a one tier society, right now it's layering up.

unfortunately these kind of hyper emotional outbursts achieve very little- they don’t provide the resources those most at need warrant.

People in danger or who have lost all should be helped. The piss takers coming from places especially in western Ukraine virtually untouched should not. Perfectly logical

I don't think anyone will admit that they will stay here, given they're not here that long. Of course they're going to be patriotic and say they will return...for the moment, they haven't settled, yet!

I suppose that remains to be seen if many will return, or will the men folk join their families here rather than picking up the pieces and rebuilding their country.

yes, but said gp has to agree to take them on, you can’t have a GP / surgery just told, hey you have 40 more people this week, here is who they are... GPS can say “ ok , for now, no more. “ a GP is not obliged to accept new patients.

Over 3,000 Ukrainian civilians dead in 2 months. Over 14,000 Ukrainian soldiers dead in that same time.

But whhaaa whhhwaa whhwwaaa the refugees are getting Medical Cards.

Their homes have been obliterated, millions of people feeling the country in fear for their lives but people are mad about medical cards because they haven't paid tax in Ireland.

Yes, it sucks that the Irish Government is doing more to help house Ukrainians, but blame FF/FG for that because they damn well haven't done squat for the Irish, not the Ukrainians.

Its not the first war and it won't be the last. Why not get the millionaires or billionaires to pay for it. Not paddy tax payer.

Isn't Zelinski worth over 500 million?.

Where was all the flag wavers when immigrants were crossing from Belarus.