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BMW i4

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    #1022
    eagerv
    Registered Users Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭eagerv


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119020797#Comment_119020797

    Red is the only colour that puts the Tesla Model 3 RWD outside the grant and over 60K. (Crazy for a colour IMO)

    Love the two cars, but pity the article was poorly researched, he even said the Model 3 was rattly. Perhaps initially from the states, but the car is as taught and rattle free as any modern competition now



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    #1023
    Buddy Bubs
    Registered Users Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119020853#Comment_119020853

    Agreed. Wishful thinking. Theres a movement going on whereby most manufacturers are moving away from providing their cheaper models due to struggling to make a profit on them. I read somewhere once years ago that bmw couldnt make a profit on a car sub 40k euro at the time. At the time I think an e90 318i was at about that figure or something like that. So every car produced below a 318i in the range was loss making. They were just about getting people into the brand as future customers of higher spec 3 series and 5s and 7s in time.

    I imagine something similar going on now.



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    #1024
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119020853#Comment_119020853

    If BMW could get an i4 35 on the road for the same price as the Model 3, heck even sub grant at €55kish, it would take sales away from Tesla most definitely.

    Even if it’s not a well thought out EV, it has the BMW branding, image and build quality.

    Service from the BMW network can not match Tesla though and this is something the “premium” brands have to address going forward.

    Theres a lot to be said about calling Tesla with an issue, and a ranger seeing at your door or workplace to fix it.



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    #1025
    Jizique
    Registered Users Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭Jizique


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119020912#Comment_119020912

    What??? Tesla service levels? Do you not read anything in the net? Their service is non-existent



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    #1026
    jordan191
    Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭jordan191


    Thing about the net is that everyone who has a problem goes online to moan but rarely do you get anyone praising a car company online, I never bought a new BMW so can't really compare their service but Tesla Service includes ranger (at your housr/work) and generally give loan cars as well they probably need extra service centers with the numbers they're selling lately. Yes definitely a cheaper i35 would sell if priced right but range needs to be better I think the i4 is just too heavy compared to other Evs



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    #1027
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119020935#Comment_119020935

    If I just listened to what’s wrote on the “net” I wouldn’t be driving a BMW with its turbo failure, EGR fires and electrical failures.

    You’ll always hear the bad stories, not so much the good ones.

    Just today a 520d blocked the M4 as it caught fire. Shocking stuff. But that’s not happening to every BMW I presume based on the “net”.

    Funny enough, the guy that caught it on camera was also driving an F10 5 series.


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    #1028
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,321 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119020858#Comment_119020858

    Colour can be all it takes. My brother in law went to buy a new Audi Q4 e-tron in January for delivery in January 2023. He wanted a particular colour. "No" says the salesman, "you want this particular grey colour". "No" says the brother in law, "I don't like that colour". "Any other colour is €6k more expensive" says the salesman. "I like that grey colour after all" says my brother in law 😂


    Sadly pretty much all Irish orders for the Q4 e-tron have since been canceled, his included...



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    #1029
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 28,039 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119020989#Comment_119020989

    Is that car wrapped around the pole?



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    #1030
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119021022#Comment_119021022

    No, it started to smoke as he was driving. He pulled over and up in flames it went.

    The lamp poles are on the grass verge. Car is in the hard shoulder.


    Better angle here.

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    #1031
    Fitz II
    Registered Users Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    The F10 the photographer is driving has a CEL and looks to be in limp mode.....I do miss my BMW's 🤣



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    #1032
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119021160#Comment_119021160

    I only noticed that after i took the screen shots 🤣🤣



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    #1033
    PaddyFagan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭PaddyFagan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119018068#Comment_119018068

    Just to note - I rang Duffy's - that's not an in stock car it seems. According to the sales guy, the only option is to put down a deposit and go on a waiting list for a production slot. It seems cancellation for cars that arrive are being offered to people on the waitlist, so I can't imagine there will be an "in stock" i4 any time soon.



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    #1034
    Casati
    Registered Users Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭Casati


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119020701#Comment_119020701

    Am I wrong or is that a circa 3k increase in the last month or so?



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    #1035
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,321 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119023190#Comment_119023190

    You're spot on. Base Tesla Model 3 went up by €3k about a month ago. Used to be under €50k on the road and great value at that, one of the very few good value new EVs out there.



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    #1036
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119023190#Comment_119023190

    Yes, the whole range went up.

    Good thing is that anyone that ordered beforehand are locked in at the old prices.

    LR is now €71k, up from €67k.

    The i4 had had a slight increase too as it used to start at €61knwhen I was looking at it and €63k got you the MSport, now that’s €63 and €65kish

    They are due a further increase in the coming month or 2.



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    #1037
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,993 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Everything in the world is going up - I'd expect all new cars to continue increasing prices this year and next.



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    #1038
    Casati
    Registered Users Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭Casati


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119023539#Comment_119023539

    Thanks, that is a sizeable increase and yeah I was v keen on one before Christmas except I couldn't make it work with the dog.

    I can't see all these increases ending well - when stuff is getting so expensive I think it time to stop spending personally. Markets are down massively so a lot of people are a lot poorer than they used to be



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    #1039
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119024890#Comment_119024890

    It has to stop. EV’s we’re already expensive enough and there’s only so much the consumer will tolerate.

    Markets down and crypto down a bit also. We either bounce out of this or a possible recession!



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    #1040
    digiman
    Registered Users Posts: 4,214 ✭✭✭digiman


    Please let’s not talk about the markets in this thread!!! I’m physically sick looking at them the last 6 months.



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    #1041
    PDVerse
    Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭PDVerse


    I got an order update today. I ordered from Frank Keane Naas Road at the end of December. Base eDrive40, and was promised delivery in June. Told today that it has a chassis number and is built, and that the system is indicating delivery in June.



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    #1042
    yllw.ldbttr
    Registered Users Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭yllw.ldbttr


    This car, disappointing.

    Going to be a heartbreaker.

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    #1043
    carsfan2
    Registered Users Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119027727#Comment_119027727

    What’s happened?



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    #1044
    yllw.ldbttr
    Registered Users Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭yllw.ldbttr


    Car gave an error when charging at Ionity in Cashel.

    Then produced a drivetrain failure, wouldn't allow me to drive even though the battery had 40%.



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    #1045
    Fitz II
    Registered Users Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119027727#Comment_119027727

    OH no, what happened now?



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    #1046
    yllw.ldbttr
    Registered Users Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭yllw.ldbttr


    Two hours later and no rental from BMW. Fairly shoddy.



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    #1047
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,321 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Oh no that's not a good start :-(


    It all depends now how BMW is sorting this for you. A problem with a brand new car is one thing, but you'd expect to be almost immediately back on the road though in a similar car (or at least any car) at no cost and minimal inconvenience.



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    #1048
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119027727#Comment_119027727

    Not good for a “Premium” Car.

    Hope you get sorted asap.

    Worth noting the i3 used to throw these errors every now and again and anytime I seen it, it was immediately after charging.

    It was as if the car threw a wobbler when being unplugged. Didn’t happen every time but I’ve seen it may times on the i3 and the 530e.



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    #1049
    yllw.ldbttr
    Registered Users Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭yllw.ldbttr


    My wife came and picked me up in Cashel.

    3 hours later and not even a call back from BMW assistance re a loaner/rental (they initially said they would have a car there in 2 hours)

    Tried to call them... 30 mins on hold unanswered...


    Not exactly the premium service you'd expect from BMW.



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    #1050
    carsfan2
    Registered Users Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    Configurator has been updated with new prices. about 2k increase all round. 2300 euro up for the m50 model.



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    #1051
    carsfan2
    Registered Users Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119028067#Comment_119028067

    I had similar experience a few years back at a weekend. Their office was closed on Friday 5pm to organise loaner cars and they ended up getting a car from a hire company in Shannon airport for me but I had to get a taxi to the airport to pick up.

    Be sure to keep any receipts for anything including food etc. this experience costs you as you will get it back from them.



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