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    #2912
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,851 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Right I’m gonna say that fight wont ever take place. Quote me if you like if I’m wrong but that’s my thinking.



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    #2913
    Morrison J
    Registered Users Posts: 3,898 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Really looking forward to it personally. Think there's a really good case for Bivol to give Canelo some serious problems. First guy with a decent jab, decent movement and a good gas tank that Canelo has fought since he's changed style to more of a pressure fighter. Wouldn't be surprised if its another case of Canelo needing some favourable cards on the judges to get the win.



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    #2914
    blade1
    Registered Users Posts: 12,375 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Canelo up against it here.



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    #2915
    Morrison J
    Registered Users Posts: 3,898 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    6-2 Bivol



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    #2916
    Morrison J
    Registered Users Posts: 3,898 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    yessss

    Always baffled me that Canelo took this fight. Bivol a completely different animal to the flawed fella's he's lined up the last few years since fighting GGG. Great performance.



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    #2917
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,851 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Great job! Usyk fight looks far away now for Canelo. Nobody was willing to take me on on that



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    #2918
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,237 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Haven’t watched it. But did say that surely Bivol could do better than Canelo’s last few opponents. Canelo has been getting very overrated these past few years. And all from beating not that great opposition.

    Will watch later. Set the alarm and slept right through!!!!



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    #2919
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 10,053 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Bivol is a lovely boxer, won that well and bullied the smaller man.



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    #2920
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 10,053 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    I see that all 3 Judges gave Canelo the first 4 rounds and the 9th. Bivol only pulled ahead after the 11th and had to win the 12th to win.



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    #2921
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,237 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Was a competitively fought fight. Bivol won with busier and more consistent work. Canelo could not sustain his attacks enough; his stamina has always been questioned.



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    #2922
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,237 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I guess that thought that a prime Froch beats Canelo isn’t so out there after all.



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    #2923
    Brock Turnpike
    Registered Users Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    Fantastic performance from Bivol. Thought the judges were very kind to Canelo but at least they gave it the right way



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    #2924
    earthwormjack
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭earthwormjack


    115-113 was extremely generous to canelo. He was easily beaten here in my opinion. Don't know how an usyk fight was gaining traction. Canelo would be flatlined in no time.

    One of the most disciplined fights I've seen from any fighter too from Bivol.



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    #2925
    squigglestrebor
    Registered Users Posts: 275 ✭✭squigglestrebor


    Do judges just automatically start Canelo on plus 2 rounds? Its annoying because theres been so much awful judging scandals but this is still a scandal. Canelo was fairly dominated.



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    #2926
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,237 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119031093#Comment_119031093

    He lost the fight. Deservedly. But few rds very close to score.

    I would not at all use the word dominate here. Canelo was quite competitive throughout. Contained is far more apt a description



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    #2927
    blade1
    Registered Users Posts: 12,375 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Shows how good Bivol's defense was when the only marks he had were on his arms.didnt see the final stats but looked like he was landing at least double the shots than canelo.



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    #2928
    squigglestrebor
    Registered Users Posts: 275 ✭✭squigglestrebor


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119031206#Comment_119031206

    Fair enough , but you dont think the scoring was still a joke?



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    #2929
    selectamatic
    Registered Users Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119030724#Comment_119030724

    Would have thought pretty much everyone was of that opinion. Couldn't be anything but a handy Usyk win if it ever happened so therefore it probably won't.

    I've always thought it'd be way and away a bridge too far infact and I've been sceptical of these jaunts to LHW but I must say while I thought Bivol would be good I expected canelo to be busier in the latter rounds and the judges to do their canelo thing.

    Thankfully Bivol simply did not let that happen with systematic effective unrelenting output throughout.



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    #2930
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,237 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119031304#Comment_119031304

    I didn’t score the rds, but after 7/8 rds the analysts/punditry seemed to have it close.

    Canelo won a few rds. Bivol won a few more. Some were close to call.

    the fact that all 3 professional judges scored the same score tells me that your take isn’t all that justified.



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    #2931
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,237 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119031305#Comment_119031305

    I think squinn was more doubting that the fight would even take place. My view was that it would be attractive financially to Usyk. Huge pay, huge hype, and fighting a man clearly smaller. Whatever chance it had/has, that chance suffered a setback last night.



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    #2932
    squigglestrebor
    Registered Users Posts: 275 ✭✭squigglestrebor


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119031341#Comment_119031341

    My take is very justified, google it. Most had 117-111 at best. And also read the comments on here about the scoring.



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    #2933
    earthwormjack
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭earthwormjack


    I dunno Walsh, the judges giving canelo the first 4 rounds is madness to me. I can't see how that's possible in any way.



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    #2934
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,237 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119031363#Comment_119031363

    I don’t think he deserved all 4.



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    #2935
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 10,053 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    The 'Average' Fan dad it 118-110 but the first 4 rounds were very close to 50/50


    https://twitter.com/FightScorecard/status/1523189273670864896




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    #2936
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,237 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119031357#Comment_119031357

    Having an opinion that it could be 8-4 or 9-3 is justified. You’re calling 115-113 a “scandal” is not justified. That is my point.



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    #2937
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 10,053 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Bivol is a fairly small Light Heavyweight and there has been talk of him going to SMW for a long time.


    I wonder could a rematch happen at 168 for Canelo's belts?



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    #2938
    squigglestrebor
    Registered Users Posts: 275 ✭✭squigglestrebor


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119031374#Comment_119031374

    I think it is though, that Bivol went in needing to win that last round is scandalous. And most who watched the fight would agree . Anyway difference of opinion. Canelo has had form for some extremely favourable scoring so it is a sore point with me.



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    #2939
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,237 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119031382#Comment_119031382

    He’d be quite a big SMW if he could shed the 7 lbs. I think he’s a decent sized LHW



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    #2940
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 10,053 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119031392#Comment_119031392

    He never looks drained at all weighing in at 175 and normally his opponents are bigger than him. I think he is a lot smaller than the like of Callum Smith for example. I'm certain he has been asked about it before and has said he could make 168.

    He doesn't have many options at LHW as Beterbiev is tied to a different promotional company.



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    #2941
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,237 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119031434#Comment_119031434

    Not really seeing it. He may not look drained, but he does look solid and toned.

    He’s 6 feet tall and was a LHW 10 years ago as an amateur, as well as having fought close to 180 lbs in the pro game.

    I don’t see 168 lbs as easily as you do. And nor do I see his opponents as normally bigger than him.



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