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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    If this conflict happened at the same time Nato forces were in Afghanistan I wonder would Russia of supplied the taliban with tons of guns and ammunition etc. I know the USA were in wind down mode with pulling out of Afghanistan but I'm just curious would military planners in the USA of said to Biden there is a good possibility in the near future that Russia may invade Ukraine and it would probably be a good thing if we do not have any of our forces in Afghanistan if you were planning on leaving them there longer even if reduced forces were there, when that happens as we will end up helping Ukraine with war materials and real time data to help them and we don't want any of our forces in Afghanistan then if this does happen that Russia can through a 3rd party attack them there? Just more wondering i presume military planners would look into future conflicts and this might of been 1 they kinda might of seen happen at some point.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,819 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Maybe the worker's party tendency is still alive in RTE.


    Mother Russia still holds a special play in the heart of Socialists



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    "Tthe possible text of Putin's speech for May 9 has leaked," Leonid Nezhlin, who was against the current Russian president, announced on Sunday morning on Twitter. The Russian businessman added to the entry a photo of two pages of the document, the content of which, in his opinion, will be read by Putin on Red Square in several hours.


    During his speech, he is to emphasize that in Europe the "brown plague" is reviving and there are attempts to "rewrite history". "The West not only ignores the revival of the Nazis, which once led to the bloodiest war in history, but also supports it. Now they focused on Russophobia and neo-Nazis in the fight against us," the alleged speech reads.

    Later in his speech in Moscow's Red Square, the Russian president is also to strike Ukraine directly. "The Kiev regime has been forced to create nuclear weapons, a network of biological laboratories has been created and modern weapons have been delivered," Putin said, thus duplicating Russian propaganda.

    "Our people have already pronounced the historic verdict on Nazism once and we must do it again, using the strength of our weapons on the battlefield and the strength of moral righteousness. Crush the evil spirits of Nazism in the bud, defeat not only puppets but also their rulers. (...) heirs of a victorious people, and victory is in our genes. The battle for Russia continues! Our enemy will be defeated! Glory to the victorious people! " - the president of Russia is to end his speech.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That speech could only be made more ludicrous if at the end he turned his back to the crowd and mooned them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,658 ✭✭✭storker


    He is using is as a distraction to be sure but he also has a long-held desire to be seen as "Churchillian", so its win-win from his point of view - he distracts (he hopes) from his lawbreaking and gets to do a bit of Winston cosplay as a bonus. Of course the Ukrainians must be very happy with his help, and so they should be, but this shouldn't detract from Johnson's status as possibly the worst PM in British history; an incompetent negotiator and serial liar on a personal, professional and national level. It's also worth remembering that all he's had to do here is agree to provide the stuff to Ukraine. Any British PM could have done that,



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    They really live in parallel reality...



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    "You don't have the Russian flag yet? You can buy it in Berlin," writes ARD journalist Ina Ruck on Twitter, showing the seller's offer on the street of the German capital.


    I thought "Z" symbol was forbidden in Germany?



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,922 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users Posts: 19,397 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    During his speech, he is to emphasize that in Europe the "brown plague" is reviving and there are attempts to "rewrite history".

    Is he referring to the morning after a feed of bad pints?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    The obvious true deterrent to any future Russian threat of escalation, retaliation or repeat invasion attempt, is that of destruction from within.

    The above counters the eagerness of Russia to continue long range shelling even after being pushed out.

    The tide seems to be turning against Putin (cracks beginning to appear regarding support for his war) and he is now hyper susceptible to acts of sabotage on Russian soil.

    Unrelated to the above, now is the time to court the "air sniffing carrion feeders" like the Belarus and Hungarian governments.

    In the medium term, we may be approaching a situation where Ukraine is simply not allowed to lose, and rightly so.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭toyotatommy


    How much provisions etc do the remaining army in the steel plant have I wonder?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    To me “ brown plague” is an attempt to create the idea that nazisium is rampant in Europe, ie the brown shirts as in nazis thugs, who wore brown shirts pre war and hitler youth more than a skin colour/racist straw man.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Big day ahead. Vlad will likely want some sort of win before the parade tomorrow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,397 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    ..



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    it seems sanctions started working, if the lack of products on shelves are discussed




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Why do people assume that off you don’t spout some faux outrage or revel in some drone footage of Russian soldiers, who are people too, being blown up posted to this tread that your some sort of pro Russian separatist.

    As regards the the far right Azov group of fighters in Ukraine and there terrible record. If you don’t believe that then your not living in the real world



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,743 ✭✭✭zv2


    All too often separatism is the beginning of trouble. I wonder if the separatists in Donbas are now as keen as they were last year.

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,819 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    I don't read Russian propaganda whether from the source or those they pay.


    It's the Azov battalion who are fighting and dying for democracy in Europe while the Russian beast tries to reinvent the Soviet Union.


    Did they have a few bad eggs, probably, was it anything significant,no.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    CNN, the BBC, aljeezria, RTE are not Russian propagandist groups. If you want to live in cloud cuckoo land that’s fine



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,440 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Did not work out too well for them in Afghanistan fighting against people wearing sandals, and no sanctions on their economy, and suffering unsustainable losses in military equipment and men, as they are now.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,819 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Beria was a Super human level communist, like the best Communists he was born in to a very wealthy family, rose quickly in the revolution, became Cheka head of Georgia, where he became noted for his rate of killing, so impressed the Communist leadership that he was brought to Moscow. Over saw the purges, the famine in the Ukraine, the extermination of the Crimean Tatars, Katyn etc.


    He also used kidnap and torture women on the streets of Moscow and had a torture chamber in his house.


    This communist Demi God has a battalion named after him, that are directly under Putin.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I don't care if the Azov Battalion literally marches in a giant swastika formation, sieg heiling, anyway. The existence of such a battalion would still be absolutely no justification for Russia to attempt an invasion of Ukraine such as it has. If Russia had said, "We're going into the separatist regions of Luhansk and Donetsk and we will enforce the ceasefire line that Kyiv refuses to.", I think the world would have grumbled, but accepted it. Putin would have been hailed a hero for securing the safety of ethnic Russians in that area. It's obvious to the world that this conflict has always been about a lot more than fighting some alleged Nazis in the east of Ukraine.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Because, and this doesn't seem to penetrate for some people, the RUSSIANS are the aggressors. They make the black and tans look like the girl guides. If they are on Ukraine soil their deaths will be celebrated.

    Does any of the above need to be explained in words of fewer syllables?



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,819 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The reality is that fascism is near non existent in the western world, including Ukraine.


    Over the last 10 years people have been pretending that fascists are everywhere. Often those screaming loudest about the threat of fascism are those who have links to Russia.


    Russia isn't behind it but it certainly helped push it on a bit.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo



    "Crushi(ing) the evil spirits of Nazism in the bud, defeat not only puppets but also their rulers. (...) heirs of a victorious people, and victory is in our genes. The battle for Russia continues! Our enemy will be defeated!:"

    These are the people who Putin thinks are his "nazi enemies" - a son who watched his father die after they were attacked whilst attempting to rescue their dogs

    Every TV station and screen in Russia needs to be hacked during Putins victory parade and that video and all the others like it played, so the Russians can see who the real "nazis" are

    🤬



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Didn’t work out in Afghanistan for any invading force. Like the Afghan war Russia had the clock but the Afghanis had the time as do the Ukrainians.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Never at any stage have I attempted to justify the Russian invasion of Ukraine. if all those knee jerk reactions mean you can’t understand English or whatever political bent you have going on means information triggers a tyraid that’s your problem. 👍



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,566 ✭✭✭jackboy


    That is interesting but also a big claim. Those who have been shouting loudest about fascists being everywhere are the western media, including RTE. They hardly all have links to Russia.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭threeball


    That was back in the first few days of the invasion.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭weisses


    I hope Putin will order a full mobilization tomorrow ..



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