US Supreme Court to overturn Roe vs Wade

Coincidence? No, of course not.

An observation based upon your own personal biases? Probably.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1287846

Surely having an extra kid makes it harder to put food on the table? Surely not being able to work/go to school due to pregnancy appointments and childcare makes it harder to put food on the table? If people are having abortions for economic reasons then it shows there is an economic benefit.

It doesn’t though. Having children isn’t what makes it hard to put food on the table. Being in a position where you’re unable to put food on the table in the first place due to lack of access to adequate healthcare, education and employment, is what makes it hard to put food on the table. People having abortions due to socioeconomic deprivation shows the only thing there’s anything wrong with is how you view their circumstances by your own standards.

Explaining that neither Democrats nor Republicans have failed to fix these issues, implies that they ever attempted to address these issues in the first place. Historically speaking, they haven’t. These issues are only a convenient stick to beat their political opponents with. In the same way as you accuse Republicans of wanting to ban abortion without giving a fcuk who they hurt, the same accusation can be levelled at Democrats who argue that the issues experienced by people living in poverty can be solved by imposing their standards on those people through comprehensive sex education, contraception and abortion, provided by them, funded by the Federal Government. Without a hint of irony, it’s rich to claim that the abortion issue is a private matter between a woman and her doctor, while expecting the Federal Government should fund it.

There’s no attempt to make the middle class the evil bogeyman at all, there aren’t any evil bogeyman, just people unwilling to put their money where their mouths are. No issue with claiming Federal funding for their own ideas though, it’s how Cecile was able to retire from Planned Parenthood with a personal fortune of $5m and earning a $600k annual salary to tell White women they needed to “do better” to bring “women of colour” into “the sisterhood” (you’ll have to excuse the inverted commas, it’s not language I normally use).

There was no hint of irony either when NARAL decided to throw their political weight behind a black man instead of a White woman who had been an ardent supporter of abortion rights since her earliest days in Arkansas working in Family Law, because they figured it would help to shed their image as an organisation for white women only.

That’s not an attempt to portray anyone as being the evil bogeyman. It’s simply pointing out the fact that the only people who seem to be benefiting economically from abortion are the people who are claiming it’s an issue for all women. Abortion itself hasn’t done anything to benefit the people it’s claimed should benefit the most from it, they’re still desperately poor, experience worse outcomes in healthcare, education and employment, and of course now when abortion rights look to be on the chopping block and Federal funding is going to disappear, the same old refrain of the people who will suffer the most are the most marginalised in society is being put forward as a reason to maintain a abortion rights… for those peoples own economic benefit, of course.

Meanwhile, Republicans are looking more and more attractive every day, because they’re offering healthcare, education and employment opportunities which are more in line with their voters values, and Democrats empty promises can’t save their political skin any more. The overturning of Roe v Wade is only of any significance to the tiny minority of people who want to maintain Federal funding for abortion. Everyone else just has greater priorities than access to abortion.

It’s understandable why from your perspective it looks like parody, because you’re operating from a different set of values which means you have a different set of priorities to people who would previously have voted Democrat, and are now swinging more towards voting Republican.

To demonstrate the difference in values between them, and before you go scrutinising, I’ll admit it’s more complex than how it appears at face value, but Republican voters tend to put their money where their mouths are, considerably more than Democrats do, in the US -

https://nonprofitquarterly.org/republicans-give-more-to-charity-than-democrats-but-theres-a-bigger-story-here/

The average age a woman has a child in America is now 30. 70 per cent of americans support the right to have an abortion, the supreme Court is now dominated by Conservative extremists who do not represent the will of American people. I believe in the next few years we will see some American states pass laws against gay marriage and the right to contraception as they know the supreme Court will be supporting laws that discrimate in favor of religion

Women in certain states will lose rights they now take for granted judges in the supreme Court will stay there pass the age of 60 this is a long term problem

American women are putting off having children while they build up their careers or until they are financially stable.

Judge Ruth Bader should have retired years ago this would have allowed Obama to put in a non Conservative judge and we would have a more balanced supreme court now

This legal decision is a major attack on women's rights in America

PP are not a for profit business, they are a nonprofit organisation -

Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc. (PPFA), or Planned Parenthood, is a nonprofit organization that provides reproductive health care in the United States and globally. It is a tax-exempt corporation under Internal Revenue Code section 501(c)(3) and a member association of the International Planned Parenthood Federation (IPPF). PPFA has its roots in Brooklyn, New York, where Margaret Sangeropened the first birth control clinic in the U.S. in 1916. Sanger founded the American Birth Control League in 1921, which changed its name to Planned Parenthood in 1942.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood

What is a Nonprofit Organization? 

A nonprofit organization is a business that has been granted tax-exempt status by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) because it furthers a social cause and provides a public benefit. Donations made to a nonprofit organization are typically tax-deductible to individuals and businesses that make them, and the nonprofit itself pays no tax on the received donations or on any other money earned through fundraising activities. Nonprofit organizations are sometimes called NPOs or 501(c)(3) organizations based on the section of the tax code that permits them to operate.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/non-profitorganization.asp

Charity is helpful in of itself but actual laws are were the real difference will be made. I suspect Democrats will be fine, certainly they haven't helped others as well as they could have but Republicans politicians actively attempt to harm the less well off.

Trigger laws are coming up now for Roe vs Wade. I presume someone has made one to invest any more back from funding abortions into pregnancy healthcare or social services?

That was already tried, and failed miserably.

Hillary came close, but then snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by trying to pass herself off as giving a damn about women by rolling out these head melts -

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/27/democratic-national-convention-hillary-clinton-celebrities-young-millennial-voters/87640400/

It didn’t help her campaign that people were reminded how she threw women under the bus when her husband was in the dock -

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/11/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-bill-clinton-accusers/index.html

Some republicans want to get rid of public schools because they are woke and are diverse and are neutral on religious faith and they are non profit. I don't think theres enough support for Clinton as a presidential canditate.

your Orange Messiah

You’re barking up the wrong tree there.

As for the rest of it, I’m not interested in defending American Republicans policies, though I can understand why Americans who previously voted Democrat have switched to voting for Republican candidates, and why they’re not all that interested in whether or not Roe v Wade is overturned.

Don’t go all Cathy Newman on me now, because I have no idea what you’re referring to that you’re calling a lie. I’m not withdrawing anything I’ve said previously, including the fact that I can understand why people who previously voted Democrat are switching to voting for Republican candidates, and why they’re not all that interested in whether or not Roe v Wade is overturned -

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/05/07/politics/republicans-midterms-roe-v-wade/index.html

EDIT: Question 4 on the survey -

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21867873/cnn-poll-on-economy-and-biden-approval-rating.pdf