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Disassembled bike for VRT

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  • 09-05-2022 7:38pm
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    Tzardine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭


    Has anyone ever presented a disassembled bike for VRT.

    I am looking to buy a vintage moped in the UK. I take it apart and bring it home in my car. I have to VRT it within 30 days, but if I put it back together I have to pay to have it transported to the VRT centre.

    What do you think will happen if I bring it for VRT in pieces in the boot of the car?



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    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    It needs to be running to have ot VRT'd



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    Bluefoam
    Registered Users Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    I presume you are aware of the additional customs charges and taxes since the brexit... Just highlighting it...



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    #4
    Tzardine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119039371#Comment_119039371

    I am thanks - the bike is a project, and of very little value, so the fees will be minor.



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    #5
    Tzardine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119038714#Comment_119038714

    Are you sure - I mean you would assume so, but I cant see anything that says this is the case.

    VRT is just a registration process after all. I have VRT'd cars before, and they never started them up or did any checks. They just check the paperwork and vehicle chassis numbers etc.



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    Explosive_Cornflake
    Registered Users Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭Explosive_Cornflake


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119038714#Comment_119038714

    Hmm, I've vrt'd a bike, the only thing they check is the VIN. You don't need to turn it on.



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    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    If a bike/car has been clearly ridden or driven to the centre then they won't ask you to start it. I rode 3 bikes to the VRT centre and was never asked to start them however the one I brought in a van (prior to ne getting IBT) I was asked to start. You won't be able to VRT a boot full of parts


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    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,691 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    There really needs to be a process to allow people to import a non-running vehicle, restore it and then VRT it.

    Usually this would be classic bikes/cars anyway so any possible tax loss to the exchequer would be tiny.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #9
    Allinall
    Registered Users Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Just VRT it when it's up and running.



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    Bluefoam
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    I did the VRT on a bike recently and the lady commented that she'd seen me drive in... otherwise she would have asked to start it up. She paid allot of attention to the VIN...



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    Tzardine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119040883#Comment_119040883

    You have to do it within 30 days of importing it.. I won't have it on the road in this time.



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    goblin59
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    So when I got my R100 VRT'd last year. I was told it has to be in running order. They will only ask you to start the vehicle if it doesn't have an analog clock.

    If the bike needs to be turned on to read the clock then they'll ask you to start it.



    I got around the running order problem by saying I was on my way to buy a battery after the VRT and thats why it wouldn't start.



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    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119041396#Comment_119041396

    A guy in one of the Facebook groups was turned away because his bike wouldn't fire up. They love sending people away, my first time I was sent away because my proof of address was printed out from an ebill. Each other time they looked disappointed when I had everything in order. They're bollixes



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    #14
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119041044#Comment_119041044

    I'm wrong, I did actually turn the key to show the KM's, but don't think I turned the engine over...



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    myclist
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    I took a bike for vrt to Tralee centre in a van. Was not asked to start it. Had to take it out for inspection. Email VRT with your query for the definitive answer.



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    Itineoman
    Registered Users Posts: 184 ✭✭Itineoman


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119041276#Comment_119041276

    If you don’t do it within 30 days they’ll put a penalty charge but if it’s an old bike then it shouldn’t be too much. I was charged for not registering a seven year old 600cc bike for about ten months after importing it - think it cost around 100 at the time and I was told by the man at the centre that I could appeal it if I wanted by stating that I had the bike off the road to make it roadworthy…..

    If your bike is small cc / older than the cost should be proportionally lower I’d imagine. So it might be worth your while to take your time and take the hit when you are ready.

    That was ten years ago for me and I’m only talking about VRT - not sure if there are implications for the Duty and VAT



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    #17
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    To pay vat and duty the bike doesn't need to be presented... so the above is potentially a good option



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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119044092#Comment_119044092

    to pay VAT & Duty it has to go on Revenue system, usually required to be in place BEFORE importation, otherwise NCT will refuse to VRT it.

    Most people use a clearing agent to do that now, it's no longer a DIY job.

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    [Deleted User]
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    There's hardly some way of twisting it where you could argue that you're not buying a vehicle, you're buying parts/products?


    And then when you've assembled it, you can register it then as it's not a vehicle until it can be up and running?


    (I'm talking out my hole, here, as I don't know the processes, but just throwing it out incase it may be a workaround of some kind).



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    #20
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    It all seems a bit mad, however when I did this I brought the bike in then paid vat and duty through a clearing agent when it was here.


    Now, you may need to pay vat and duty to get through customs, for that reason I came in through Belfast.



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