Random EV thoughts.....

pron · 30-04-2022 11:03pm

And now for something completely different ..

In spite of our echo-chamber .. there are very comparitively EVs visible on the roads in recent times. Commuting across Dublin twice a day, I'm lucky if I see a dozen BEVs either direction (Northside, just inside the M50, to Leopardstown and back). Either on the M50 route or on the cross-city options.

How does this bode for the targets to have a million or so EVs on the roads by the end of the decade?

Is this, ultimately, a good thing for used values over the next few years?

RandomViewer · 30-04-2022 11:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118999709#Comment_118999709

Strangely I'm in Donegal and am seeing lots of UK and NI reg electric vehicles, Tesla and Kia mostly, Toyota hybrids would outnumber them 20-1 though

pron · 30-04-2022 11:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118999736#Comment_118999736

Recent commute from Leopardstown home saw merely : 3 Teslas (all M3), 3 Leafs, 2 VW (one each id3 and id4) and two koreans (one parked) ... given that was down the N11 through town and up the Malahide Rd, and me on a motorbike, I probably encountered a few thousand cars total ... we have a long way to go.

RandomViewer · 01-05-2022 12:09am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118999768#Comment_118999768

Any Leaf I've seen is parked in Letterkenny, actually suspect the ugly things don't move, I am seeing quite a few Tesla 3s, all UK reg and poor paintwork. Nordies have a big love of BMW 530e's.Reality is hybrids are the sellers, people have grasped that 40k plus for a full electric that's going to be obsolete in a few years, guessing there'll be a breakthrough in self charging, some sort of frictionless alternator that charges the battery as it drives leaving 50mile Leafs as useful as a chocolate teapot

ted1 · 01-05-2022 12:35am

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I see close to a dozen leaving our estate of 110 houses each morning

Tesla M3, Volvo XC40, kona, Eniro, few different leafs, ID3s , ID4s.

wassie · 01-05-2022 1:50am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118981584#Comment_118981584

The planning report p10 states:

The High-Power charge points provides 2 connector types CSS & CHAdeM0 suitable for European manufactured cars and Asian manufactured cars respectively. These hubs can provide up to 100km of driving range in as little as six minutes. These vehicles can be charged by using a charge point card by swiping it across the screen to stop & start charging.

Bandana boy · 01-05-2022 2:14am

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I was just saying to the mrs , I can see real traction out there , on a quick shopping spin this morning , I saw loads , including my first BMW IX in the wild .

JohnC. · 01-05-2022 7:59am

I’ve been seeing a surprising number of EV6 in recent weeks, for something so hard to get. Maybe they’re all being sold down the south east ;)

Cyrus · 01-05-2022 7:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118999925#Comment_118999925

In our estate of 19 houses there wasn’t one ev or hybrid 4 years ago now between full evs and phevs we have 7, 3 bevs and 4 phevs. Almost every car that has been changed in that period has gone electric or partially.

to be honest anyone in an urban setting with their own driveway that should be the only choice unless it’s a rare case of someone doing 400km plus daily.

ted1 · 01-05-2022 8:28am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119000033#Comment_119000033

My brother has one, if you ignore the grille they are lovely

the_amazing_raisin · 01-05-2022 9:34am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118999925#Comment_118999925

Similar situation here, there's dozens of EVs on my estate now

TitianGerm · 01-05-2022 9:46am

I live in a small Cul de Sac with 9 houses and there's my ID3 and a VW, BMW and Range Rover PHEV.

On my short commute to work I pass a Model 3, three Kona, two eNiro, an ID4 and Ioniq 5 every day.

Most evenings I also pass a EV6 and three different eNiros. About once a week there's a black Taycan parked outside a local insurance broker. There's also a white Model X floating around every now and then.

Oh and one of the local priests have a Zoe.

I live in a small town in Wexford.

PaulJoseph22 · 01-05-2022 10:10am

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The Leaf is not a bad car and it is made by a well established car manufacturer. You’re right about the paintwork, very poor quality.

Gumbo · 01-05-2022 11:39am

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I see about 10 on the school run alone!

Dublin 11 Area. There’s 2 BEV on my road alone. 2 PHEV and 2 “self charging” hybrids. That’s a road of about 20 houses total!

They are definitely more prominent now than last year alone.

Gumbo · 01-05-2022 11:48am

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Leaf is a good solid car.

Has its own flaws, particularly with the rigid rear axle and really bad app and infotainment system but it’s a good all rounder.

Tesla M3 is the new 320d or even 520d. They are everywhere you look nowadays. Paint quality and panel alignment seems to be hit and miss. I had a 2014 Model S with alignment gaps that would be noticeable to the genuine car person and I’ve had a 2020 M3 with virtually nothing wrong so it’s really hit and miss with the USA built cars. Nowadays they are built in China and it appears to be substantially better, if not perfect.

When your dealing with the cars daily, as some of the car detailers and PPF guys I know, they can see the difference.

Even the big boys still have issues. Brand new Porsche Taycans had to go back due to alarm sensor failures etc

BMW’s had charging failures on the 30e cars. The i4 plastic body panels are destroyed by cleaning products that don’t effect other cars. Lots of strange bugs in the EV world out there

We are still in the early days of EV relatively speaking and the big guys will have issues too but they will eventually sort themselves out.

slave1 · 01-05-2022 12:07pm

I see a lot of EVs but as an early adopter I’ve been subconsciously looking for them over the years, it’s an instinctive call out at this stage. In my estate of 60 there are just two BEVs and both on our driveway…

the_amazing_raisin · 01-05-2022 5:43pm

Saw the EasyGo company car (or one of them) today, a nice Ioniq 5. One lucky employee gets to drive that around

It's nice to see charging providers using more EVs. I see a lot of ESB vans are now electric as well

mfceiling · 01-05-2022 9:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119002615#Comment_119002615

He's a neighbour of mine!! Gives me a wave every time we pass each other.

T-Bird · 04-05-2022 7:16pm

See a good few every day here in Sligo, mainly VWs. I was in Hamburg during paddies week and saw very few apart from 2 VW taxis.

JohnC. · 05-05-2022 9:13pm

Here's a new one on me. Someone on a UK forum got to work to see a birds nest in the charge port compartment of a neighbouring company's van.

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the_amazing_raisin · 05-05-2022 9:19pm

How long was the van sitting there plugged in!? I'd hate to see the battery health on they t

slave1 · 07-05-2022 2:37pm

There was a parked Leaf 6 months+ chatted about a few years back here somewhere. Battery was grand

graememk · 07-05-2022 4:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119021130#Comment_119021130

Ive seen birds build a nest in a few hours (well at least the starting of one!) So It doesnt have to be there very long.

AndyBoBandy · 09-05-2022 1:53pm

Has anyone used a VendElectric charger?

They are Rolec chargers, and it looks like VendElectric is their method/app for paying to use Rolec chargers installed at various locations like shops/restaurants etc..

https://www.rolecserv.com/vendelectric

They have a big presence in the U.K. but not so much in Ireland.

the_amazing_raisin · 10-05-2022 11:39am

Spotted this beauty sitting across the pavement last weekend

Apparently it's okay for some people, just not anyone who wants to charge an EV 😏

joe1303l · 10-05-2022 10:26pm

It’s a traffic counter (rubber tubing filled with air) and not electrical cabling.

Usually installed by local authorities and likely to be there for 24-48hrs

Alkers · 10-05-2022 11:58pm

Does anyone see any value in the current second hand market at all?

I'm not after a leaf or a Zoe but will consider anything else - regular commute 25km each way (no charging), need 100km motorway range to visit parents each month (can granny charge there) but otherwise don't do many long trips at all. Considering second hand i3 or ioniq, can't see the value in spending more than that (high teens €) considering our range requirements and am not keen to buy new, particularly with current delays

unkel · 11-05-2022 12:15am

All cars are expensive, new or second hand. No different for EVs. That said an i3 94Ah or Ioniq 28kWh will be fine for your use and around the high teens seems decent value compared say a new ID.3. Just looked it up and the base model is a shocking €45k on the road.

Alkers · 11-05-2022 12:21am

I get that but what I mean, the battery size tends to add significantly to the price of an EV and it doesn't seem worthwhile in our useage case to buy a large battery, which we will hardly avail of.

I am happy to spend money but considering the current market, what do people consider best buys?

I see new ioniq 5 is in the low 40k region which almost seems good value although it doesn't have a heat pump and we leave home at 7am

TitianGerm · 11-05-2022 7:32am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119044209#Comment_119044209

That's not right Unkel. The ID3 DX is €39K. I'd imagine there's delivery charges on top of that as well of about €700.

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