Brian Dowling and Arthur Gourounlian expecting first baby.

I've often argued the "its not to be taken literally" as a defence for saying something. Never seems to hold water in this day and age.

"disrespectful to women" "Traditional" "accessory"

"'circus" "what gender will they give the child"

The comments in this thread aren't even slightly veiled as being anything but hurtful & disrespectful to Brian & Arthur

When you have to qualify statements with "Im not homophobic but" it's just providing an excuse to yourself to be very homophobic unfortunately.

Not sure the majority of the these comments would be acceptable in heterosexual thread on surrogacy-beyond comprehension why they are tolerated here?

Just remember when the child is "of age" to google himself and everything will still be available online for them to view-

Would you rather leave a positive or negative contribution on their life??

By the time the child is "of age" growing up in the environment it's going to it will have such thick skin they will probably be a rhino! Sure by then they will more than likely legally be able to identify as one as well.

This isn't s woke issue and it isn't a social one so stay on topic and quit the veiled insults.

Is the phrase 'we're pregnant' the ONLY thing you're upset about - yes or no? If they said 'we're having a baby', would you be fine with it?

No idea. Can't go through a poster's old posts since the site relaunch.

Frankly, getting upset about a phrase and heading to the Internet is something I'd expect more from the woke crowd, but getting hard to tell the difference between woke and anti-woke these days.

Nah looking at the plonkers they will use this child for their media and will be into what they now term "digital child slavery."

Basically pimping your kids on social media and the likes for money.

They will no doubt be in competition with that other vacuous attention seeking slaphead Vogue for detergent ads and the like.

These two eejits, no more that all the other social media talentless creations should not ever be allowed procreate, they are lowering the IQ of humanity.

i actually feel sorry for the sister, imagine how hard it will be to hand over her child, and then be an aunty in his/her life, and the kid has a right to know who it's mam is in my opinion anyway, the most special person in most of our lives is our mother

Who's name goes on the birth certificate? It can't be BD and his fella, whilst omitting the mother? It can't be the mother and 2 father's. Who gets omitted?

Its not an ideal situation.

It was actually mentioned earlier in the thread, that it's apparently a donor egg, with one of the lads contributions.

The sister is just the vessel/womb for the embryo.

There were some developments in 2020 regarding same sex couples and birth certificates.

Mind you, from the above article the birth cert situation seems to only apply to same sex female couples?

Ohh how edgy, lets invoke Godwin's law. 🙄

Do you get extra brownie points for pointing that out?

You do know that lots of countries have had and continue to have sterilisation, some forced, some by offering incentives to people.

No I don't want morons procreating.

This is one of the problems with our modern world, we consider taking part in reality shows a career choice.

Being a celebrity for just appearing on reality tv is now a career choice.

God be with the days when in order to be a celebrity one had to be talented (acting/music/arts), achieve something in sports, in politics, in business, science, etc.

Now it is because someone gets their t**s out on telly, sleeps with someone famous or semi famous, eats some god awful shyte on tv or belittles themselves on tv for the viewing pleasure of other people.

And also it is time that someone pointed out the big elephant in the room, population.

Very few of the environmentalists, greens, the social media howlers ever seem to point out the fact that the earth's population explosion is causing problems and going to cause even more.

Some day we are going to have to start looking at population control.

Ever hear the old joke about "you need to have a license to have a dog, but nothing to have a baby".

I don't care how rich someone is, I care if there are idiots or look like bad parents.

Sooner or later there will be controls on procreation.

Either that or everyone will be so educated and working so hard to put a roof over the heads like a lot of the Western world, that they can't be bothered or afford to have kids.

Pray tell us why they are ideal candidates to have kids ?

They are already hawking their kid for attention before it is even born.

To me that fooking sounds awful.

They are already engaging in what is now termed "digital child labour", before the kid is even born.

By the looks of it one can see them going down the road of that other vacuous waste of space Vogue whatever you call her, pimping their kids at every opportunity to earn a few quid.

So answer the question, how do YOU propose to decide who will be allowed to have children and what makes YOUR personal taste better than others?

I believe they have the potential to be good parents because they have the resources to afford raising a child, appear to have settled, reliable lives and are in a long term relationship together. This is from the very small knowledge I have of them.

Finally, and most importantly, they actually want to have and raise a child.