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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XII (The Byrne Supremacy)

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    #8222
    Interested Observer
    Registered Users Posts: 13,106 ✭✭✭✭Interested Observer


    Sheehan has come from basically nowhere to be a nailed on in the Ireland 23. How can he not win it?



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    #8223
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,755 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Fiona Hayes on OTB said something about James Ryan being injured



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    #8224
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,625 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119048298#Comment_119048298


    https://twitter.com/leinsterrugby/status/1524457812763594755?s=20&t=ux0UNuJZVkfdmYjsL6p8Ug


    seems to be training here fine ......



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    #8225
    Lsdrugbyfan
    Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119048298#Comment_119048298

    clueless



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    #8226
    Zeugnis
    Registered Users Posts: 755 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119046996#Comment_119046996

    JVDF all the way. Last year as well. When they announced the Lions' squad, I felt that he and RK had been unjustly left out. but Ronan was brought in mid-tour. Meanwhile, Josh has an attitude advantage - he just keeps getting better.



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    #8227
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119048614#Comment_119048614

    To be fair, at the time, 7 was a pretty stacked position. Tipuric, Watson and Curry were all probably justifiably ahead of him, and I felt he was poor during the ANC.

    He’s been unbelievable since then, mind, and if there was a Lions squad this summer, he’d definitely be on the plane.



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    #8228
    phily2002
    Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭phily2002


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119049002#Comment_119049002

    He should have been brought when Tipuric got injured. Garland backed Curry who was really poor on the tour and Watson didn't live up to his 6 nations standard. VDF would have been a better option.



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    #8229
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 17,172 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    This match was played in 2006 and is still the best I've ever watched. The weather was perfect and Leinster and Toulouse just attacked from everywhere.

    https://twitter.com/ChampionsCup/status/1524645801619644416?t=ZlwE0AsRVSdJE_iVvuBjkg&s=09




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    #8230
    bluedex
    Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭bluedex


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119046349#Comment_119046349

    Likewise, was at both games and couldn't wait to get them back to Dublin after the SF in 2010. Both sides were seriously strong, that was the only KO game Leinster lost between 2009 and 2012.

    Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.



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    #8231
    Lsdrugbyfan
    Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119050217#Comment_119050217

    Sexton missing was a killer.



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    #8232
    Bogwoppit
    Registered Users Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119050182#Comment_119050182

    I agree, for me this was the pinnacle of rugby so far in my lifetime, a truly sublime match.



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    #8233
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    If Leinster re sign Ala'Alatoa, do they need IRFU approval? He's out of contract after next season. Iirc.

    I think he's been a good signing. His presence gives Clarkson time to develop. He's also good around the field.



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    #8234
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,625 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119051002#Comment_119051002

    Every provincial signing needs irfu approval



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    #8235
    Lsdrugbyfan
    Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan


    Interesting to see what they do post Ala'alatoa




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    #8236
    RichieRich_89
    Registered Users Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119051118#Comment_119051118

    Probably just extend Ala'alatoa.

    Thomas Clarkson, Vakhtang Abdaladze and Temilolhwa Adewunmi Lasisi probably wouldn't be enough backing up Furlong, would it? Maybe one of them will have a breakout season.



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    #8237
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    I think Ala'alatoa is good for a contract extension next season. Potentially 1 or 2 years.

    End of next season he will be 31 - a good age for a prop who could angle for a good bumper contract abroad in France.

    But given we're guaranteed without Furlong during international windows for the next few years it's prudent to have a top level operator to step up in his absence due to injury or rest etc.

    This top level operator may well be Vakh or Clarkson but I'm not seeing it happen next season.



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    #8238
    Lsdrugbyfan
    Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan


    Yeah a 2 year extension makes the most sense, but you never know he might look elsewhere.

    I'd rate Vakh ahead of Clarkson at the moment, be interested to see if he can keep on progressing.



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    #8239
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 17,172 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    How does everyone see Saturday going? I'm cautiously predicting a Leinster win. I think the team has shored up certain deficiencies in their game which cost them in previous European defeats. Fielding the high ball has definitely improved and teams don't get easy metres from up and unders anymore. Leinsters counterattack and attack from phase play has definitely improved as well. Every player in the 15 has the handling ability to get the ball wide where there's space.

    The biggest question mark remains around the set piece. The consensus is that if you can shade Leinster up front you'll beat them. I don't necessarily agree with that. Sometimes the opposition gets a nudge up front but that wasn't the winning of the game. In defeats to Saracens and La Rochelle, Leinster had plenty of chances to score, but couldn't capitalise because their set piece malfunctioned. Against Saracens a few years ago it was a scrum issue. Against La Rochelle we struggled at the lineout and the breakdown and ended up trying to run everything and getting swallowed up at the ruck.

    When at full strength our attack and fielding is much better. I'm just not as confident at scrum or lineout. I think we've got enough to beat Toulouse, but we can't afford another set piece meltdown.



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    #8240
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,755 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    4 years ago today.


    https://twitter.com/LeinsterRoyalty/status/1524694477448830978?t=84Prlik7AvKBiGBQZxai2Q&s=19


    Jack Conan 😀



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    #8241
    Lsdrugbyfan
    Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan


    Leinster Rugby ‘A’ team to face Universities Selection (senior appearances in brackets):


    15. Max O’Reilly (9)

    14. Chris Cosgrave (2)

    13. Daniel Hawkshaw(u20)

    12. David Hawkshaw (11)

    11. Rob Russell (4)

    10. Charlie Tector(u20)

    9. Ben Murphy


    1. Michael Milne

    2. Lee Barron (2)

    3. Temi Lasisi (1)

    4. Brian Deeny (2) CAPTAIN

    5. Jack Dunne (20)

    6. Diarmuid Mangan(u19)

    7. Martin Moloney (7)

    8. Seán O’Brien (3)


    Replacements:

    16. Tom Barry(u19)

    17. Jack Boyle(u20)

    18. Vakh Abdaladze (17)

    19. Cormac Daly

    20. Ryan Baird (36)

    21. Daniel Leane(u19)

    22. Michael Moloney(u20)

    23. Sam Prendergast(u19)

    24. Dylan O’Grady(u20)

    25. Matthew Lynch(u19)

    26. George Hadden(u19) (Reserve)



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    #8242
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    When is that game on?

    That would strongly suggest and unchanged 23 for Saturday...



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    #8243
    Lsdrugbyfan
    Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan


    Tomorrow.



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    #8244
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Bodes well for Baird getting meaningful gametime before the end of the season but not for this weekend anyway



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    #8245
    Lsdrugbyfan
    Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan


    start versus Munster and see where he stands after that..



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    #8246
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    He must twinged something or other. So that could put Toner into the mix, or Murphy. I'd prefer Murphy. Baird had no luck lately!

    I think Clarkson will progress over the next couple of seasons. He's a little small, imo. He's only 22? Plenty of time for him to develop. He's quality in open play, mobile and a good carrying player. Vakh is bigger but so injury prone.

    I'd have kept Lasisi at loosehead. Leinster have a gaggle of tight heads that are impressive looking prospects. McGuire from the 20's. A big lad who's only going to grow bigger! He's 6ft 4in and 18 st, 4lbs. Then there's Pat McCarthy from Blackrock. Serious looking player and u18 Sparrow from Gonzaga. I think they all are good prospects.

    Remember when we used to complain about the lack of tight heads?



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    #8247
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Can't wait for the weekend. I wonder if Leo will follow the Munster game plan or will he try to implant a possession based game plan.

    I think trying to keep the ball in play will wear down Toulouse. Maybe rain a bevy of contestable garryowens? It's tough to see what works. Ulster beat them and ran the close so, maybe their strategy should be used?



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    #8248
    Interested Observer
    Registered Users Posts: 13,106 ✭✭✭✭Interested Observer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119052668#Comment_119052668

    I wonder if Leo will follow the Munster game plan

    Well they didn't win so I sincerely hope not. Leinster have played the same way for pretty much the whole season and no matter who has been on the field. Very quick rucks, everyone handling the ball, everything done at pace, etc.



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    #8249
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,294 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Whatever happens they want to whip the ball out of the scrum as quickly as possible. Munster twatted about with the ball and gave away penalties in a couppe of scrums they should have won.

    If I were Toulouse, I'd be targeting the scrum as a penalty generator.



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    #8250
    durthacht
    Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭durthacht


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119051416#Comment_119051416

    Do you mean Vakh or Clarkson? I thought TC struggled in South Africa, but I know he's still young.



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    #8251
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Rumour on LF that TOB has done a "serious knee injury" on Tuesday. I'll take rumours with a pinch of salt mind you.

    Huge disappointment if true though for the kid as he was definitely there on merit in the strongest 23.

    If he managed to get some solid performances in knock out rugby games he could be knocking on the door for the standby list to New Zealand.

    Presume Frawley to 23 shirt assuming Tommy is indeed out



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