Eurovision Song Contest 2022

Pussyhands · 13-05-2022 9:57am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119054688#Comment_119054688

I made a joke yesterday that Europe didn't like us because of our tax haven status but maybe there's something in that, that we get favourable treatment from the EU. Maybe we're not as liked as much as we'd like to think we are.

The "not on mainland europe" or "eastern european countries voting for themselves" thing doesn't stand up to the test when fcuking Australia get through!

gmisk · 13-05-2022 9:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055513#Comment_119055513

Money talks.

Songwriter for the Rasmus song included Desmond Child.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Child

One of the songs on late late had members of the coronas and picture this as writers (not a fan of either but picture this in particular have a huge following).

Welsh Megaman · 13-05-2022 10:01am

Jaysus.

You know, I’ve never been one for giving sympathy votes, etc. :D

Make love to me, Europe!

captbarnacles · 13-05-2022 10:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055513#Comment_119055513

Maneskin?

RoryMac · 13-05-2022 10:07am

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You're over thinking the reasons for us not getting votes, we sent an ok song that didn't really stand out. Thought Brooke's performance on the night was pretty good compared to the rehearsals that I heard during the week which sounded awful.

If we send a good song and confident performer we'll get good results

captbarnacles · 13-05-2022 10:09am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055172#Comment_119055172

There was no attack on Brooke in that post though. He pointed out the gulf in class between Brooke and other singers in the contest which is 100% true.

To give you an idea how far away we are listen to Amanda Tenfjord for Greece. She's a 300-1 shot!! and is in an entirely different league to Brooke.

Expunge · 13-05-2022 10:11am

I'm not so sure we actually have much of an indigenous "pop" tradition anymore in this country.

Yes, you could point to Louis Walsh's constructions of the noughties but let's face it, all the work, production and management was done from the UK and US.

The "pop" infrastructure probably went out the Swarbriggs, Linda Martin and CHips - and they were relics of the Showband era, which is a lifetime and more ago. The likes of the Swedes (not a huge country) have kept their infrastructure - we have subcontracted ours out to the Brits and the Americans.

We have lots of jangly guitar led music and angsty female and male singers but no pop - and there is a lack of strength in depth as a result in the pop department.

So, leave that and look at other genres. Start with the genre and match very very good talent to that.

The aim is to qualify for a final on a regular basis because this show still delivers monster domestic audiences.

Graham Norton once described Eurovision as Europe's Superbowl and RTE should really really want to play the best players in this - not go on the piss for a week somewhere nice.

breezy1985 · 13-05-2022 10:13am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055627#Comment_119055627

Ya true. Its about as rap as most of the rock songs are rock

Pussyhands · 13-05-2022 10:14am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055743#Comment_119055743

We consistently finish last in either the semis or finals itself on the rare occasions we make it.

There's such a broad mix of songs that got through...our song definitely wasn't the worst.

penny piper · 13-05-2022 10:15am

I actually thought Australia, Poland,Belguim,Sweden,Estonia were all very good....

Ireland should stick with what it's good at which is a good catchy ballad.....big chorus...something the audience doesn't forgot....

The Irish entry just wasn't good enough and sounded dated....

AyeGer · 13-05-2022 10:17am

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Maybe Ireland should try Drill Rap next year. Get a few bucks from Blanch on the case.

Ger Roe · 13-05-2022 10:17am

On Linda Martin delivering the Irish vote tomorrow night....

We all know that Sweden take the Eurovision very seriously and it is a hugely popular event with the Swedish public. Linda became a big news story there when she won in Malmo in 1992, with 'Why Me?'.

The following year, close to Christmas, I was working in Malmo and some of my Swedish colleagues asked about our work Christmas party, back in Dublin. We were going to one of the mass corporate big night out events, held at The Royal Marine Hotel in Dunlaoghaire - as it happened, Linda was the live entertainment, before the DJ was due to take over for the end of the night. When my Swedish colleagues heard this, they were amazed at how our small company in Dublin could arrange to have a Eurovision winner sing at our Christmas party.

I didn't have the heart to tell them that we were one party table in a hall of hundreds and that Linda wasn't as big back home as they thought she should be. The Eurovision win may have done wonders for her career in Europe, but back home it merely resulted in a slight move up from the chicken and chips cabaret night out in The Belgard Inn, to slightly bigger corporate events.

castletownman · 13-05-2022 10:20am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055353#Comment_119055353

I guarantee sending Denise Chaila will turn heads. Sexy, beautiful, new Irish and modern music.

rolling boh · 13-05-2022 10:23am

The song was just about mediocre and the performance I thought was OK she gave it her best shot .It's unlikely Brooke will have a career in music singers like her are ten a penny .We will not figure at all with part time performers with very average songs .

Expunge · 13-05-2022 10:24am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055810#Comment_119055810

Yeah and her record company and management will tell her "don't come home, if you do that f**king thing"

breezy1985 · 13-05-2022 10:26am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055783#Comment_119055783

We are not "good" at catchy ballads though. Or at least I see no evidence to suggest we are.

RoryMac · 13-05-2022 10:28am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055779#Comment_119055779

I'd agree it wasn't the worst but it was far from a standout song and even allowing for bias it was borderline for getting into the top 10.

We seem to consistently send songs and performers that a committee decide on and how they perform on stage rather than having a band/artist come in with confidence in their own talent and ideas around staging. I think as someone said earlier we just view the competition differently from a lot of Europe and the interest isn't their from established experienced acts to go forward for it

Expunge · 13-05-2022 10:53am

Here are a couple of sproblems I have noticed from the RTE selection web page ......

Submit your entry to the Eurovision Song Contest 2022 (rte.ie)

"If you are an accomplished songwriter with a proven track record of success in the music industry, we would like you to submit a song together with a suitable performer(s) to be considered to represent Ireland.

All songs must be submitted with an artist(s) already attached, artists must have the talent, drive and ambition to compete at the highest level before a global audience of over 200 million people."

So the songwriter gets to pick the artist to sing it. I'm not sure that's the best way to go about this.

"Entries will be considered by a panel of music and entertainment industry professionals and Eurovision fans. Selected artists may be invited to audition in the RTÉ studios in Dublin." - Well, that could be anyone.

"Although we wish to encourage and identify promising new talent for the future, this is probably not an opportunity for beginners or people with limited or no experience of performing in public to large crowds." With the greatest of respect to Brooke, I think she probably comes into the "limited experience" category - although she did her best.

I'm sure Michael Kealy, RTE's Head of Delegation is a nice person and wants success as much as anyone but making a few radio documentaries and being executive of the Late Late Show in serious decline for a few seasons really does not qualify him in any serious way for the role, it would seem.

There's a bang of "this is how we've always done it" from the RTE selection process.

sam t smith · 13-05-2022 11:11am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055681#Comment_119055681

Was this a literal or figurative ‘shat himself’?

Hopefully the latter, for the audiences sake.

johnire · 13-05-2022 11:22am

The point that everyone seems to be forgetting and not one to pour oil on troubled waters but the citizens of Brooke Scullions own country were eligible to vote for her and even with this huge advantage she still couldn’t qualify. How mortifying is that?

breezy1985 · 13-05-2022 11:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119056122#Comment_119056122

But most of the citizens of her own country don't understand that she is from their country and don't really care about Eurovision that much anyway.

On top of that every Irish act has always had the advantage of the UK vote so it's no more mortifying than any other year

Juran · 13-05-2022 11:28am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119056122#Comment_119056122

Well said !

Expunge · 13-05-2022 11:33am

I noticed BBC NI sent over a reporter and even did a live Q and A into their Newsline show yesterday evening. You can't say she didn't get a good push with resources in the north.

odyssey06 · 13-05-2022 11:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119056148#Comment_119056148

Do they? Are we always paired in same Semi as UK?

I thought this year having Australia and UK voting on same night might be helpful.

JupiterKid · 13-05-2022 11:42am

I think it was a bit disappointing that Brooke's entry didn't make the cut for the final - it was certainly a much better song than last year - but as the others opined, in the general scheme of songs performed it was really only average. I do also think, however, that inferior songs did get through, like Romania and Belgium. Sweden IMO was the best song performed last night.

I do think she gave it her all and the staging was good but we really need to put forward some better artists if we are to have a decent chance. Ireland does not take Eurovision seriously enough and hasn't for years now, the same problem exists with the UK.

fryup · 13-05-2022 11:48am

so Ukraine are going to win?? 😐️

ebbsy · 13-05-2022 11:58am

Liam Reilly would have been turning in his grave listening to that attempt last night.

Had another listen to Somewhere in Europe, fantastic song.

Man Vs ManUre · 13-05-2022 12:11pm

Why didn’t we submit a song in Ukrainian language?? We would have qualified then. Or at least a song taking the pi$s out of Russia. Next year we should do this.

RoryMac · 13-05-2022 12:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119056268#Comment_119056268

I'd be surprised if they don't get 12 points from every jury, public voting probably follow the same pattern

breezy1985 · 13-05-2022 12:38pm

If they can't host next year it should really be offered to second place (the real winner)

fryup · 13-05-2022 12:45pm

it could be held in a underground bunker perhaps? 😶

LordBasil · 13-05-2022 1:42pm

Maybe part of the reason Ireland didn't qualify is that Europeans might not have understood the meaning of 'That's Rich when it's coming from you', kind of like how 'Dying to try' was a bit lost on people. The lesson is do not send a song to ESC that revolves around a phrase that Europeans might not know.

pnott · 13-05-2022 1:52pm

This Eurovision feels like a write off to me. The overall standard of songs this year is not great. Some are better than others but I can’t see myself listening to any of them after the final. Some very questionable songs got through to the final. With Ukraine a dead cert to win, the best song is definitely not going to win sadly. As a huge fan of Eurovision I can say for the first time I am not that excited about it. In terms of Ireland, given that Serbia qualified I’d say we were not far off qualifying and it was just bad luck that we didn’t get through. I will continue to tell myself that so I don’t lose all sense of hope!

Indestructable · 13-05-2022 2:12pm

Which song is stuck in everones head now before the final? Bizzarly for me its the Norway one, which actually slaps on a decent set of speakers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDvXhZtcp0w&ab_channel=Subwoolfer

LordBasil · 13-05-2022 2:25pm

Re Norway, 1 of the members of Subwoolfer is allegedly Ben Adams, formerly of late 90s/early 00s boyband A1!! Subwoolfer have not removed their masks in public so no-one is quite sure.

breezy1985 · 13-05-2022 2:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119057083#Comment_119057083

They should start a rumour that one of them is Zelenskyy

glitterIsland · 13-05-2022 2:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119056492#Comment_119056492

This is ridiculous.

Shouldn't it be genuinely be the best song wins. The Ukrainian song really isn't very great. My ears don't like it. If the jury and the public votes giving Ukraine the highest points doesn't that just indicate it's all political voting.

How can anyone have faith in the song contest that is Eurovision if it's based on political votes?

Welsh Megaman · 13-05-2022 2:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119056991#Comment_119056991

Sweden and Czech Republic for me. :)

UsBus · 13-05-2022 2:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119056492#Comment_119056492

Wait till the votes, I wouldn't be surprised if not every country toed the line. Ukraine will probably still win easily, bit either the jury vote or the public one will be slightly off. It could end up closer than people are expecting. Could be embarrassing if it's in the balance though..!!!

glitterIsland · 13-05-2022 2:40pm

Some of the songs that made it through on last nights semi final was ridiculous. Say what you will about our own entry with Brooke, I liked Malta but that didn't get through.

Some of the songs that got through were awful. We would have been better off sending Richie Kavanagh or Pat Short with his jumbo breakfast roll.

RobertKK · 13-05-2022 2:49pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXrDgWDo24g

I liked Serbia for being different, at least it was not another ballad for the final, and one can do the hand dance:)

13-05-2022 2:49pm

…. Wrong thread

_NAGDEFY · 13-05-2022 3:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055008#Comment_119055008

If the Ukraine wins it won't do them much good, always an asterisk beside it. Whoever comes second will be the real winner.

It just shows the difference in 3 decades of how social media, the cause of the day has changed society.

Bosnia got a good round of applause for arriving in Millstreet from their war torn country in 1993. Came mid table in the voting.

This war in Ukraine is very wrong. But their are other equally as wrong conflicts at present. I never can remember a war being so prominent in Irish news and life before, since WW2, when bombs hit Campile and the North Strand in Dublin and we had rationing.

Busi_Girl08 · 13-05-2022 3:13pm

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I have a mash-up of Norway, Finland and Ukraine going through my head all week.

fryup · 13-05-2022 3:18pm

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yes it was a great song but its very much 'of its time' a song like that wouldn't get a look in these days..its all about the pyrotechnics and the costumes the song is secondary imo - its just gone too silly now, a parody of itself😐️

13-05-2022 3:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119056492#Comment_119056492

I think you're right. They really need to agree that everyone gives them the 12 points or just forget about it. Otherwise what will happen is some country will only give them 8 points and will therefore be accused of supporting the murder and rape of Ukrainian children over on the Russia thread.

13-05-2022 3:34pm

Boards.ie should put in an entry next year.

"ya we're boards, um-pa um-pa, boards.ie,

"boards, um-pa um-pa, la-de-da-de-sumthing else etc.".

Irlande Douze Points.

breezy1985 · 13-05-2022 3:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119057350#Comment_119057350

Yugoslavia was a civil war not a massive super power invading a smaller neighbour.

This is the biggest war in Europe since WWII which is why it has been the most prominent since WWII.

Blaming social media is just old man shouting at cloud stuff

breezy1985 · 13-05-2022 3:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119057399#Comment_119057399

I think Rock & Roll Kids could still do well. It would be a real curve ball entry against all the glamour.

sam t smith · 13-05-2022 3:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119057127#Comment_119057127

Genuinely the best song. 😃

Thanks for the laugh.

The ‘least worst’ song and performance should win. There is no ‘best’ when they are all crap, there is only bad and less bad…

Eurovision Song Contest 2022

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