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Eurovision Song Contest 2022

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,030 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Personally I thought the Ukrainian song was muck, let's be Frank here, even if they didn't enter they've had won.

    Brooke did an excellent job and I still can't believe she didn't at least make it to the final when up against the Tripe alongside her.

    Fair play to the Brits in fairness.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,308 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    UK and Sweden had the best songs, Ukraine's was absolutely forgettable. Serbia was my favourite and judging by their public vote plenty did too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,247 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭johnire


    I wonder what the story is with the voting irregularities? Bad reflection on the countries involved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,000 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Leo would want to be careful or we could end up hosting!




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I thought Panti Bliss didn't get the gig this year?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,231 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Everyone. It's showing Ukrainians they have solidarity from Europe, not just from politicians but from the people. Likewise it's showing that in Europe there's strong support and solidarity for Ukraine.

    Every little helps, it's just a song context, but like any international event, it's important for Ukrainians to feel support and that they are on the right side (which they are) because they are enduring the brunt of this. It's also important for Europeans to keep as much solidarity as possible because we are in this for the long haul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,516 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Anybody checked in on Linda Martin today to see how’s she’s doing?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Quick, someone tell Zelensky to tell Varadkar to build enough homes for us.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I'll respond in a similar way to Zelensky in response to your "showing support by voting in eurovision" comment.

    "WE DON'T WANT YOUR EUROVISION VOTES, WE WANT WEAPONS"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Be interested to see if ireland actually submitted a great song and performance how we would do in the public vote. The UK can at least considered themselves less hated the Germans in Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,231 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Wow.

    Zelensky doesn't want politicians visiting Kyiv for "selfies", he wants them to bring weapons/supplies, because the country is fighting for it's life. It's a no-brainer

    That's completely and utterly different from Europeans supporting Ukraine in a song contest or similar. Likewise banning Russians from sports. It doesn't have some physical tangible "effect" on the war, but it shows crucial solidarity towards Ukraine, whilst showing the Russian public that their actions are not supported by a large portion of countries.

    I can't believe this has to be explained, but here we are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,516 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    The six countries who had their jury votes removed are:

    • Azerbaijan
    • Georgia
    • Montenegro
    • Poland
    • Romania
    • San Marino

    All 6 were in Semi-Final 2 with Ireland.

    Their jury vote was replaced with an estimated vote system that gave nothing to Ireland from any of the 6 juries. We received nothing from the tele vote from those countries either.

    Something not right there surely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    People are going on like there were good songs denied some opportunity by Ukraine.. ALL of the songs were poor.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Am I the only one that doesn’t mind the Ukraine song, especially that whistle bit?

    A few good songs I thought got screwed in their running order, Czech Rep and Netherlands and perhaps they’d have placed higher if put in a different slot. However Portugal had an early slot and the song did fairly well with both juries and public.

    Ireland’s current suggestions for next year mean we’ll get 0 points & more NQ for finals. Real money would have to be spent to change that, with a credible artist / performer ( which we had this year & in the other finalists of Eurosong ) and professional selling from the start. No corner of the Late Late studio with two backing dancers nonsense with 65+ year olds looking bewildered in the audience. It needs a proper launch pad for the song. These songs go straight to YouTube and to a Europe wide audience. Spain had a big show / announcement in Benidorm, Sweden has their annual competition. Oh & of course the Late Late will have the annual performance or reminisce on how good we used to be & weren’t they the great old days. Time to move on!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,672 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Good article here on the BBC about how the BBC producer met his Spanish counterpart for a drink after the final last year and they both made a pact to do better this year after performing so dismally, and then how they went about getting their act to represent them.

    Good on the UK, I really hope they do run with this new thinking and get a lot of success for themselves and for the unknown artists who need a leg up.

    The more serious they take it, the more credible it becomes, and the more this might filter into our decision making here as well.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 835 ✭✭✭Detritus70


    Well, with public voting you will always have a barometer of the general mood of the voting population. The result should be of absolutely no surprise to anyone.

    I don't mind whatsoever. I'm sure Ukraine would gladly give up their Eurovision win in exchange of not being invaded by Russia.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 835 ✭✭✭Detritus70


    OK everyone, take a deep breath and repeat after me:

    It's just a cheesy song contest, it's just a cheesy song contest, it's just a cheesy song contest....

    No point getting your knickers in a bunch over it.

    Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,295 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Eurovision Song Contest text poll showing solidarity with Ukraine.


    Yes, it's absolutely awful what's happening in Ukraine. But that was a total mockery last night, and everyone knew it was going to happen. I feel a bit sorry for the other contestants, they stood no chance. All smiles from UK, Spain and Sweden at the halfway mark, but they must have known they were going to get railroaded by the upcoming public vote.


    The public vote alone would have been enough for Ukraine to finish 4th overall and just 28 points shy of winning. So if Ukraine had got 28 points from the jury voting last night, they would been in 4th last place and still would won. Farcical. Some of the jury voting towards Ukraine was biased as well. The Ukrainian song was rubbish and if there was no war, they'd have finished in the bottom half.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    If the eurovision was a farce before last night its a total farce now. I get the gesture to ukraine but what's the point winning anything on a sympathy vote, just totally de values the contest. Which country will be flavour of the year next year? Will ukraine win it again next year? Thinks its all childish imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,242 ✭✭✭TheRiverman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I enjoyed the Ukraine song. Probably shouldn't have won though I thought the UK song was derivative of better original songs. If no war in Ukraine and they have no votes judging by public vote spread as percentage Spain would have won. Do we want the song competition be won by not the most song contest with the public?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,632 ✭✭✭archfi


    I think this beats Linda's 'Get Lucky' triumph on the LLS.

    The 'up, up, up' cabaret bit (her performance is all a tragic Transport Club chicken 'n' chips in-a-basket vibe from the 70s to be honest) is a simple reminder why herself and everyone else involved with RTE & ESC in Ireland should get off the pitch FOR THE LOVE OF GAWD.


    Arrrrribbbbbaaaaa!


    The issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution.

    The Entryism process: 1) Demand access; 2) Demand accommodation; 3) Demand a seat at the table; 4) Demand to run the table; 5) Demand to run the institution; 6) Run the institution to produce more activists and policy until they run it into the ground.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭macvin


    Can people just accept that the Irish entry was utter rubbish.

    The performance was ok, but the song was bland and uninteresting.


    Irish people in Britain voted for Ireland, Polish people in Ireland voted for Poland, Irish in Australia voted for Ireland.

    Where we don't have a large disapora we got next to nothing.

    Cos it was rubbish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,711 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Also, it was an obvious rip off of another Eurovision song and was sung with a fake accent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,893 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Brooke’s song was about 10 years too late in regards to success in Eurovision. It was completely outdated.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,442 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Could it just be that Linda Martin and Louis have too much power in RTE over Eurovision? That yer man who attacked her in the audience of the late late was right? You remember when she turned into a screaming fish wife?

    Not that I give a damn about Eurovision, which is a competition ireland are never going to win again?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,878 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Who pays our entry fee yearly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Can someone explain how the public vote works there are millions around Europe and Australia sending in texts yet when it comes to the acts there are only a few hundred going to the winner or in the case of Germany I think it was six, hard to believe that of millions only six voted for them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,642 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If you look at the national jury voting they have a bunch of points they give to their top 11 nations all they way up to the douze points.

    I assume that for the phone vote, they add up all the votes and the top 11 get votes in order, per country.

    Whichever country got the most votes from country X gets their 12 points.

    So Germany got 6 points from phone votes from all of the countries.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,711 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    The same way the jury vote works - act with the most votes in a country gets 12 points etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    I have to laugh at all those saying Spain was nothing more than softcore porn performance. Yet if it was a translamapansexual-non-binary female helicoptering her shlong in your face you'd be saying it's a win for equality... 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,516 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Have to say I thoroughly enjoyed this year’s contest!

    Staging - excellent. That Diodato performance!

    Presenters - annoying at times, but that is par for the course.

    Graham was good this year (although I found Rylan and Scott Mills funnier), but far better than Marty of course.

    My only gripe was that the public vote was dragged out for far too long - you could sense energy levels starting to dip both from viewers and those in the arena.

    Maybe scrap the public vote?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,642 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Start the contest earlier, or drop the opening ceremony stuff. They need the intermission acts for a window for voting but the opening stuff is just expanding something already running for 4 hours.

    Reduce the time for public voting and speed up the public voting delivery... the presenters were dragging it out like XFactor results even for countries not in with real chance of victory.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,893 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    She'd get found out quick on the European stage



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭put_the_kettle_on


    It's a coloured balaclava !!! I definitely had too much drink on board, what with all his capering round I thought he had tattoos all over ☺️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,744 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I thought our entry was awful bland. No zip or dynamism in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,242 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    The Green Glens Arena in Millstreet, lots of Ukrainians there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,516 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Agreed, the ‘X-Factor’-type pauses were pointless and dragged on for too long.

    They only brought in the public vote for suspense because you could see where the juries votes were going - get rid of it, I say!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,642 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I'm ambivalent about the public voting but I think some element of it is here to stay.

    I think they should get rid of this you can vote up to 20 times! Three max. End the window for voting earlier.

    Open up the voting earlier when it gets to the last couple of songs.

    Also, I wouldn't have the jury and public voting giving same number of points. Reduce it from 50:50 to 66:34 or 75:25.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,516 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    As an aside, it would be good to hear the songs by the ‘Big Five’ in full sometime during the semi-finals.

    Come Saturday, you have already become familiar with the other songs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    ^^^^^^^^

    that's a good point, songs take time to grow on people and semi finalists songs have a head start in that regard



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,756 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    *Nu cred"... but still did a much better dealing with the situation than Linda Martin did 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Yes, it's an interesting point. We have a fair sizable East European population here, I can understand them voting for their home countries but you'd think they'd also throw a few votes Irelands way and that their relations back in those countries might throw a vote this way. But I get the impression that it doesn't work that way, our immigrants vote to the east and can't be arsed about the country that pays their bills.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    So where will the contest be held next year did anyone hear?

    Can't be in Ukraine anyway.



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