Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

And if anti vaxxers followed the money they will find vested interests as well making money off them. But you don’t want to admit to the fact you’ve been manipulated.

vaccines still help but aren’t the end all. Poorer countries will be impacted more as they will have poorer diets etc and be more prone to serious infection. If it causes less deaths I see no issue there.

I note you quote another utter buffoon , Ben Scallan !

Another good reason to avoid the Twitterati .

Providing a tweet from an idiot about an idiot sort of cancels it out , imo , but it's just my opinion spudman .

Unvaccinated population with widespread malnutrition and likely poor access to medical supplies, could be carnage.

Reporting of cases now moved to weekly on the Hub. As of today.

First HSE (/gov.ie) stops posting the details and this now.

It seems the new buzz with the zealouts and NPI crowd on Twitter have latched on to is the reinfection figures of Omicron.

I think i need to start licking door handles and kissing strangers. I just can’t catch it even once 😆😆

Good news :

Twitter is a funny old place with craziness alongside good sense, as above but to be honest most people know the extremists at this stage ..and Anthony Staines has been more than a bit extreme all along .

Luke O'Neill has been right down the middle with an almost insanely positive outlook, while being totally rational however .

In the context of the HSE's budget, all discrete costs are "trivial". On that basis you could hire a "backup intern" and justify it because €25k a year is trivial in the context of €20bn. This is how waste happens, by justifying unnecessary actions on the basis of their small cost. The value of such actions must also be justified, not just the cost. Whatever time it takes someone to collate and update this information - even if it's five minutes a day just ensuring nothing looks awry - is time they could be doing something else.

There's nothing to "follow up" on. Nobody went to EY and said, "We would like to implement widespread surveillance, tell us what to do". When you hire consultants on a matter, they produce a range of possible actions, and the impact and cost of each.

The fact that they came back with something so clearly overstepping and unfeasible tells us that their brief was way too wide ("how do we respond to a pandemic") and they were completely out of their depth. Which supports Holohan's assertion that the EY document was a pile of sh1te.

There's nothing to investigate in that, nobody was planning on implementing widespread surveillance.

The questions to be asked are what the connections are between the civil service and the big consultancies. Despite having our own state employees numbering in the hundreds of thousands, we seem to run to Deloitte, Accenture, EY, KPMG or PwC at the drop of hat for "consulting". And as we've seen from various farces like PPARS, these companies are nothing but a money pit, sucking up millions in fees and producing very little of substance except unworkable options or more opportunities to charge fees.

They need to bulk out their healthcare arm with people who know what they're talking about, health is big business for the next few years. The head of EY's health consulting has qualifications in business consulting. All of her experience in the healthcare sector comes exclusively from working as a consultant to the healthcare sector. Bit of a circular argument.

This is fairly typical of all these companies though, they operate industry-specific consulting arms run nearly exclusively by people with MBAs and other business qualifications, and no actual relevant industry experience.

Anyone who works in technology for example, will tell you that hiring any of these companies for IT projects is a complete waste of money. They won't assign anyone who actually understands the technology. It's a mixture of new grads and qualified accountants who fancy themselves as IT consultants.

Same clearly goes for their health consulting, hence why they're now bringing in actual medics with real world experience.

No it doesn't.

It says Donnelly supported the use of EY as pandemic consultants, it doesn't say that Donnelly supported the ultra-surveillance plan. I've no love for Donnelly here, but the reason this isn't being talked about is because it was a piece in a document that the government never had any plans to use. It's pretty clear that it was "considered" (i.e. the document was read), and then "ditched" (i.e. ignored). Aside from a few paragraphs in a document produced by a 3rd party, there was no other discussion of this.

Covid test again, hoping negative, I've sore throat and cough but am asthmatic, testing centre was empty

So many other things circulating now , especially pollen !

Hope you are negative .

Went to GP, who did my 2 Pfizer shots + booster. Looking for 2nd booster (over 75). Was told they no longer do it and referred me to HSE phone number and website. HSE site took an awful lot of clicks to produce a dropdown a list of HSE Vaccination centres, none of them near where I live. Then googled for pharmacy list and got a HSE list of all Dublin pharmacies, hundreds of them. No phone numbers supplied.

Tried a local Boots, and their website was badly laid out, and the Boors listed by the HSE come up as not doing online appointments.

I am reasonably competent at online things but for many over-65s, the whole experience must be very off-putting. So next Autumn there will be an awful lot of under-protected and vulnerable people, because of the extremely user-unfriendly process of getting jabbed

Yay back negative but still bad cough and sore throat, eyes now sore

I woke up on Tuesday with sores on the roof of my mouth and I'd say some down my throat as that's a bit scratchy too. Pain behind the eyes, in my ears and a heavy chest, not enough to stop me going about my day but just enough that I'm worn out by the evening.

I'd say most people are being hit hard by bugs that they normal won't acknowledge because we were so isolated from each other for the past 2 years 🤔

Yea we are all down with something that started sneezy and sinussy and aches and pains . All negative a few times on antigen .

Thought it was hayfever to start with , but two of us are on antibiotics for it now .

Would've been a bit weak- ey before Covid too so nothing new there .

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