Point to point extender

Conchurl · 06-08-2019 2:58pm #1

I live on a farm the farm shed (just 1) is 100 meter's away from the house there is a line of sight. You can see the roof of the house from the shed. I would like to get my broadband extended to the shed so I can put up some cameras to keep an eye on the animals. Could you recommend a point to point extender or is it even possible. I'd like to do this work myself.

The high horse brigade · 06-08-2019 6:33pm

Conchurl wrote: »

I live on a farm the farm shed (just 1) is 100 meter's away from the house there is a line of sight. You can see the roof of the house from the shed. I would like to get my broadband extended to the shed so I can put up some cameras to keep an eye on the animals. Could you recommend a point to point extender or is it even possible. I'd like to do this work myself.

Here's a pre configured set of Ubiquiti Nanostation M5's
https://www.irishwireless.net/nsm5-ptp-kit

heffsarmy · 07-08-2019 2:39pm

The Ubiquiti NanoStations M5 will do the trick. I installed this for a friend who has stables and put in some cameras. He only bought one at the time but I managed to pair it up with an old Linksys router lying around, we put the Linksys AP in his attic and placed the Ubiquiti NanoStations M5 on side of stables, approx 150meters from Bunagalow. It required a reboot every couple of weeks. He plans to replace Linksys router eventually.

https://www.eurodk.com/en/products/nanostations/nanostation-m5?currency=EUR&vat_state=incl&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrs2OtO_w4wIVSbDtCh2lewXYEAYYASABEgIumfD_BwE

Conchurl · 08-08-2019 11:00am

heffsarmy wrote: »

The Ubiquiti NanoStations M5 will do the trick. I installed this for a friend who has stables and put in some cameras. He only bought one at the time but I managed to pair it up with an old Linksys router lying around, we put the Linksys AP in his attic and placed the Ubiquiti NanoStations M5 on side of stables, approx 150meters from Bunagalow. It required a reboot every couple of weeks. He plans to replace Linksys router eventually.

https://www.eurodk.com/en/products/nanostations/nanostation-m5?currency=EUR&vat_state=incl&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrs2OtO_w4wIVSbDtCh2lewXYEAYYASABEgIumfD_BwE

Are they easy enough to set up?

heffsarmy · 08-08-2019 12:33pm

They are easy to setup GUI, plenty of info on the web if your stuck

https://youtu.be/wZxJPBukjbY

MrMusician18 · 08-08-2019 12:40pm

I use TP Link CPE510 for something similar. Cheaper than the ubiquti gear which is quite expensive and is more semi pro aimed with it's dashboard.

vicwatson · 11-04-2022 4:40pm

I know this is a 2019 thread but cant see any one more up to date.

Looking to put in a point to point system for aprx 50m distance, have clear line of sight, can anyone recommend a system to get me going on this? TIA

smuggler.ie · 11-04-2022 4:45pm

Unless you have specific reason not to use it, 50m is within Ethernet capabilities, would be much more reliable.

The Continental Op · 11-04-2022 5:16pm

I would run a cable like smuggler.ie suggests. One 75m cable about €50 delivered job just about done https://www.amazon.co.uk/MutecPower-Outdoor-waterproof-Ethernet-Network/dp/B00EOTHEL6/

If you have to cross a drive or a road then perhaps that not the best solution. Personally I'd use two Ubiquiti Networks LOCOM2 NanoStations normally about €50-€60 each but at present I can't find them anywhere at that Price, when Amazon had them is stock last I bought 2 of them https://www.amazon.co.uk/UBIQUITI-Networks-NanoStation-airMAX-Outdoor/dp/B00DCNRTAG/ for about €110 (for the pair). If you do get those I can probably email you a config file for each one if you can't set them up yourself. There are loads of other wireless bridge solutions but after trying many of them I've got quite fond of the Ubiquiti Nanonstations. The downside is if you don't follow a youtube video or some such on configuring them there is quite a steep learning curve. You probably don't need the M5 (5GHz) version because you link is so short although the M5 allow for faster speeds - M5 upto 300Mbps and M2 upto 150Mbps.

vicwatson · 11-04-2022 5:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118912027#Comment_118912027

tks but across footpaths etc so not feasible

The Continental Op · 11-04-2022 6:35pm

Best price I can find for two Ubiquiti Nanostation Loco M2 is €106.51 inc delivery from the site suggested above by heffsarmy https://www.getic.com/product/nanostation-loco-m2 you might want to add some form of mount for each one so two of these https://www.getic.com/product/universal-arm-bracket (good price) and of course a couple of suitable length terminated Cat 6 cables.

smuggler.ie · 12-04-2022 3:32pm

What would be your expectations/requirements for speed over P2P?

If you on 1GB fiber - difference at the destination location will show up, not so much if you on 100MB

Be aware, LAN port on these units(Nanostation) only support 10/100Mbps, thus your max LAN speed at destination will be limited to that.

https://dl.ui.com/datasheets/nanostationm/nsm_ds_web.pdf

The Continental Op · 12-04-2022 4:08pm

^^^^

Do you have a better solution than the Nanostations? I was trying to come up with something that was reasonable on price.

I have a few M5's set up that provide my own internet from a neighbors Vodafone Fiber connection and while I get a max of 60Mbps I don't find it limiting in anyway. I had M2's set up for a backup to a 4G connection but there the limiting factor was the 4G.

One other point with the Nanostations is that the instructions recommend using shielded Cat5 cable for the link from the Nanostation to the PoE block for lightning and RF protection. I have the cables here just by my desk but have never bothered to fit them and so far so good 😏

Over the distance that vicwatson is talking about there shouldn't be any performance drop with the M2's inside behind glass inside on a windowsill which can save a lot of messing around getting cables through walls and putting up mounts.

smuggler.ie · 12-04-2022 6:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118916989#Comment_118916989

No, not for a reasonable price. It is as good as it gets. Just a note to OP, you know how convincing marketing can be - "up to 300Mbps" and few ***, that not everyone reads.

"Nanos" are good , for a purpose, like CCTV for a farm, etc. Providing 100Mbps is sufficient, it is fine actually for any purpose - not everyone have even that.

Again, depend on destination specifics, just an outdoor AP could provide same/similar speed, in some cases even better.

vicwatson · 18-04-2022 2:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118912167#Comment_118912167

Have tried to find this cable in white but no luck. Anyone know where I can this cat6 outdoor cable in white? Tia

The Continental Op · 18-04-2022 2:13pm

Black is the colour of outdoor cables on the whole. The other option for white might be a cat6 shielded cable. I say this as they tend to be slightly stronger that ordinary cat6. Howerver grey/beige is the first option I can find https://www.amazon.co.uk/rhinocables-Ethernet-Shielded-Snagless-compatible-Grey-Beige/dp/B09R7JSJ1M/

White https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ethernet-External-Internet-Anti-Jamming-Weatherproof/dp/B09CKBCZDH/ but you have to terminate yourself. Needs a tool https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005GOWWZQ/ is a cheap one I have and does the job well enough.

smuggler.ie · 18-04-2022 7:14pm

Perhaps worth to have a look at this...

https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/outdoor-radio/cpe710/#overview

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-CPE710-high-gain-Lifetime-Warranty/dp/B08C5KY25X/ref=asc_df_B08C5KY25X/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=499244847831&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6949878818229237983&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007850&hvtargid=pla-1260391678540&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

vicwatson · 16-05-2022 12:05pm

Ok, got the cable installed, what do I need in the garage? another router? tia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118912027#Comment_118912027

The Continental Op · 16-05-2022 12:54pm

You want a gigabit switch, probably a small 4 or 5 port one something like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-LS1005G-Wallmount-Ethernet-Splitter/dp/B07VWB347G/ at time of writing that one is on offer at £8.40. Just plug and play no configuration as you are just extending the network in the house.

You probably don't want a router unless you want to create a separate subnet.

You could use an old 4 port router if you have one kicking around just don't use the WAN connection use use the 4 ports which are a switch.

smuggler.ie · 16-05-2022 4:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119069965#Comment_119069965

Once your new cable terminated on both ends, just plug and use. if need expand network, as per above - switch or old router.

If you'll go with switch, but still need WiFi you'll need something to act as AP there. Router will provide both, switching and WiFi functionality

Notes re "old router":

either need to be configured in AP mode or disable DHCP for IPv4 and IPv6(if present). Recomend to set it on static IP for future management

You might want to check that it is gigabit capable router.

You can configure "old router" WiFi with same name and pass as your main, leave band and channel on Auto

Once completed setup, take configuration backup if possible

Point to point extender

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