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2021 Applicants - Merit List

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  • Registered Users Posts: 43 Hypomnesia


    Ideally, it would be great for the merit list to be passed to PSNI early next week, and for PSNI to get back to us by Friday with our merit position and with next step instructions. But think that’s being far too ambitious 😅



  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Pizza4Life


    Hi. That's not a bad time at all. In fact it's a very decent time. The fact that you've being able to run over 6 mile shows a good level of fitness in anyone's eyes. I assume that was on a treadmill? Try it on the road/street to see the difference. I try and do a 5 mile loop of the town when I leave the kids in for swimming 3 times a week. On alternate days I do weight training & mountain biking.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Here’s hoping it’s not forever getting though all this! Numbers from 2020 pool still very high! Was in the middle of getting a house then I lost my job…. Back to square one 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Anyone looking hard worker 🤗😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭reddriver


    Yeah United are looking a few hard workers don't currently have any 😅



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭reddriver


    Joking aside hope you get sorted there's nothing worse than your situation especially in this current climate



  • Registered Users Posts: 27 CG97


    Hey guys, another vetting questions.

    What about if you have been part of a flute band, orange order etc, does that go against you in anyway?

    i was in a band that had zero affiliation to any sort of organisation and the band did not carry any flags. I am not in the band and have not been for a couple years now,


    I’ve heard it’s fine as long as it’s declared?

    can anyone shed some light?

    thanks!



  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭NeeNaw21


    When it comes to attesting at the end of GV you will be required to notify the PSNI of membership of the orange order.


    Search PSNI and notifiable memberships.


    Not sure if it asks about memberships on the vetting forms.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27 CG97


    I am not a member of anything, I have been part of a flute band.


    as of a couple of years ago I’ve no affliction with anything, my question was basically if it would fail the vetting because I have been involved.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Pizza4Life


    Totally different questions here guys so please assist any of the q's above that haven't been answered.

    1. Regarding vetting - If you have been through the process before or are in the know about how it works, already being a firearms permit holder for a number of years now with clearance for certain MOD ranges also. Will this aid in the speed of my vetting? I can't clearly recall but I would assume there will have been some kind of CTC check done at some stage.
    2. With the current situation on the hill, and the likely hood of anyone from this campaign starting gv until next year some time from what I'm reading (if things go as they are going now) does it not seem a little early for the likes of medicals and fitness checks. Yes I understand things can change quite rapidly and a large influx of recruits may be needed, but say you pass your fitness etc in July and you get the green light but don't get called up till July next year, it would leave a whole 12 months where anything could happen ( loss of fitness due to injury, laziness etc, metal health issue unrecorded before etc etc) Or is there a medical/fitness refresh that is carried out..


  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Boneyard2002


    To answer the first part, if you have already been CTC your vetting should be quicker it’s not always 100% but the main difference between the sc and CTC is just the fact SC goes more in depth when it comes to finance etc. it’s “technically” the same thing. I’m CTC cleared I’ve just been told to declare that on the vetting forms to make in go quicker.


    with regards to people with A*s - As. I do see them beginning their PCA and vetting soon as the 2020 recruitment is starting to thin out. Some people take weeks for vetting to be cleared and others take a year or two. They’ll start that in the coming weeks. I do believe with PCA there is a 3-6 month expiration on that, so I believe you would have to redo it then. It goes the same for the medical etc. it expires after time and you just have to declare if your circumstances change. I hope this atleast answers a bit of what you’re asking



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  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭NeeNaw21




  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Boneyard2002


    There’s people part of the orange order within the job I don’t think being part of a flute band would be a problem 🤣



  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭NeeNaw21


    Being a member of a musical group with no subversive connections. No it won't fail your vetting.



  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭NeeNaw21


    You also did ask about the orange order. If you want specific answers ask specific questions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭NeeNaw21


    1. No everyone's vetting is treated as a fresh application.


    2. I think they will ring after a certain amount of time to ask if there has been any significant changes to your health. Nearly sure it's a self declaration.



  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Boneyard2002


    I’ve been told that if you declare your CTC clearance it would be a smoother experience? That’s coming from someone in the job for a good number of years



  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭Narwahls


    With regards to vetting, I lived abroad for a year (erasmus study programme for university) and if I get my vetting forms before the end of June it will have to be declared as living abroad within 3 years.

    Does anyone know if this will slow my vetting forms down substantially? Had no involvement with the police or anything while I was there (didn't do anything stupid) but anxious that this will delay me by quite some time if they have to do the same level of checks in that country or is it more a basic criminal record or lack of criminal record check?



  • Registered Users Posts: 43 Hypomnesia


    Every application is treated as a fresh application. You don't need to declare what clearences you have. UKSV and PSNI vetting will know.

    You are correct in that it can aid in the speed of your vetting process though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Boneyard2002


    Yeah I know it’ll be treated as a fresh application though I’m pretty sure as you said it speeds it up because it’s mostly done



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  • Registered Users Posts: 43 Hypomnesia


    Previous clearence allows for crosschecking, but all information will still need validated and searched for as it is still a new application - just to ensure nothing has changed. It does definitely help though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 43 Hypomnesia


    From what I can find online regarding SC, it shouldn't slow you down too much, extra criminal record and credit checks. I think you'll only be at risk if you've lived in countries not deemed as allies to the UK



  • Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭crazyfire999


    Question re pay:

    How are PSNI officers only paid 24K? That’s absolutely bizarre no?

    Does the environmental allowance apply monthly?

    It seems like a very low income in comparison to the job, the duties and the danger.

    just a thought…



  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭NeeNaw21


    They aren't paid only 24k a year?


    It's £28,271/annum once out of Garnerville. The NITA is added to your salary



  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭Narwahls


    Yeah it's an EU member and close ally so shouldn't flag up anything security wise. Credit check from then will be fun though, god it was an expensive place to live



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Regarding to medical examination, I tore my ACL and cartilages back in 2015 but had reconstructive surgery and everything was back to normal. To date I have some pain now and again, but will this be a red flag at all does anyone know?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭Narwahls


    I asked a similar question in the 2020 posts and asked a serving officer, they basically said they just ask you if you think you can handle it and let you judge yourself



  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭Si_zx10r


    Just on the news that stormont won't be back up and running for a while yet so fingers crossed they keep with the process and don't scrap it this year 🙁



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭reddriver


    Can't see the scrapping it but just not holding another recruitment for a while maybe



  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭Si_zx10r


    Hopefully that is the case, dont really want to have re-apply and go through the whole process again lol especially the a/c given how tricky it is to score points lol



  • Registered Users Posts: 46 new2022scs


    I really wouldn't imagine them scrapping our campaign, imagine the money it costs for recruitment with Deloitte. Police officers are needed no matter if we have stormont or not. Keeping our fingers & toes crossed



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  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭Si_zx10r


    Fingers crossed we hear from psni next week confirming our merit numbers and confirmation of the vetting forms being sent out for completion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Boneyard2002


    Do you reckon you’d be able to get Vetting papers sent to a station? Post usually goes missing and sent to neighbors and being from a “ropey” area I’d prefer not to have something like that happen.



  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭DDGS7




  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Boneyard2002


    I meant sent to me. I’d rather pick them up instead of sent to my home



  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭DDGS7


    I'd imagine they would only send it to your address on file tbh



  • Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭crazyfire999


    How do you find out your merit number?



  • Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭Blueandtwo1320


    Email received, although I was being hopeful they would include our M.L position.

    From looking back at last years campaign, they received assessment centre results on the 18th May, then received their M.L position on the 25th May. This year is slightly different as we had the 'right to work' check in between, but I think getting a M.L by the end of next week will be the case.

    🤞



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭reddriver


    Im still gonna be optimistic and hopeful for Friday 😅



  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭johnny990


    Do we get Vetting forms to complete after merit list score.

    Hope Fitness test is not too soon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭Blueandtwo1320


    You could be right! and I hope you are! lol

    @johnny990 I have no idea regarding vetting forms, also don't know if everyone receives them or if it is in merit list order, but as for the PCA, I would say dates could be given soon enough, especially for those at the top of the merit list.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 36 OldBenTheHermit


    Vetting forms were sent out in stages for us in 2020, like blocks of 100 every few months, again, because of delays I don’t know how it will work. My only advice is be prepared for long periods of hearing absolutely nothing. My last correspondence was March and no update since. Have been appointable since February



  • Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭crazyfire999


    What grade or ML no we’re you? I’m guessing A* and A candidates are on a good foot to get appointed quicker if vetting etc goes well?



  • Registered Users Posts: 36 OldBenTheHermit


    Can’t remember grade but I’m in the 700’s on the ML, obviously the higher grades will get started the PSNI managed stages sooner but then will also have to wait for longer on the other side, there’s 160 of us sitting appointable so the 2021 group will be added to the back of our line



  • Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭crazyfire999


    To the hell with that haha - weird that they would recruit then not appoint people.



  • Registered Users Posts: 36 OldBenTheHermit


    We’re just waiting on places becoming available for training! We will get an offer, eventually haha sooner of the government would form and approve a budget



  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭Narwahls


    Just wondering, in normal times (pre covid and pre curfuffle on the hill) how big were intakes to GV and how long roughly between one intake starting and the next one starting?



  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭lornzeo99


    @OldBenTheHermit did you get a grade scoring? I’m also around 700 in 2020 campaign and appointable, but I don’t ever remember a grade such as A, B etc…



  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭NeeNaw21


    Nope. Regardless of competition.


    The "line" as you put it only refers to folk appointable.


    Plenty of folk appointable from 1810 leapfrogged 1710ers.

    I was in one of the first 1810s to start and there were plenty of 1710ers in our course.


    The assessment centres are directly comparable so people say 1-100ML 2021 are higher scores than someone 700-750ML 2020


    Offers are made in order of merit of who's appointable. They undoubtedly will have say 75% of places on a course for the earlier campaign. But they won't delay appointable folk starting just because they applied later



  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭DDGS7


    Your email with your AC results you got last year doesn't tell you your specific grade, but it does have a table showing the grade bands and the marks for each grade, leaving you to work it out for yourself



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  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭lornzeo99


    @NeeNaw21 thats strange, I put in an information request and they said the appointable people from 2020 have priority over this campaign, maybe changed it now



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