RTÉ journalist found guilty of sexually assaulting woman as she slept

So is this man in your eyes a sexual deviant? Do you not take into account the situation, drink, their consent to engage in intimacy, their meeting up afterwards etc. The length of time before the incident was reported....

do you also believe that what happened to this man could happen to almost any man in a similar situation? If you do, then we are all no different than he.

I am sure there are many many many decent and good and gentle men who have ended up in similar situations....none meaning in any way to harm, hurt or terrorize any woman

It seems you want to demonize this man based of a very very short time where he acted and she said stop/no, and he then stopped.

Caroline Flack, smashes a lamp over her boyfriends head when he's asleep, get's arrested and then tops herself before she faces justice, now lauded on social media as a victim by women and someone who was hounded to suicide. Interesting comparison.

#bekind

i read the consent was for sexual intercourse - not for the foreplay activities that they did,.

he didn't have sex with her or attempt it after her initial no to intercourse.

he isn't a creep - well based on what is in the paper I don't see he didn't anything wrong.

even if you argue he did wrong , the consequences do not fit any by any measure what he. he is now convicted as sexual assault. the prison (or not) is irrelevant - that is all society will see.

that puts him on the same level as one of these dirtbags - the one who wasn't convicted of rape but sexual assault . is that fair ?

if anything this case will make men wake up and lawyer up on this first mention that another party isn't happy after the event which is a terrible indictment of our country.

one nights stands are always dangerous imo especially inviting those strangers to your house, male or female.

Actually RTE have a long piece on it.

I noticed this part of of it and she has absolutely every right to believe this but it does seem a little extreme to claim he's responsible for all her own personal relationships. I hope she can find some personal peace and healing.

In the case from the facts I have seen I would not find guilty of sexual assault. I have a doubt and thats enough.

There is no plausible route to come to that conclusion given the defendant admitted it. You can't consent when you are asleep, the law is crystal on that.

As for the judge not tempering the victim impact statement, I wouldn't be too sure about that, I remember a more contentious case which revolved around not using a condom where the judge did just that.

Mr Justice Butler noted the woman in her victim impact statement indicated she was in fear of the accused and afraid of him coming at her with a knife or sledgehammer. He said there had been no suggestion of any such violence or any violence at all other than the rape

If a women performs oral sex on you, are you allowed slip it in her mouth when she's asleep?

If your reaction to a woman waking up and telling you to stop is "sorry I'm horny" you are in fact a creep.

He committed and was found guilty of sexual assault, there was a very easy way to avoid that.

this is from RTE but lacking in the indo - which I read initially.

she took a lift home to her house - then had him back to her house the next night for "speaking". then waited a year to go to the gardai.

sounds so weird to me .

I'm actually stronger in my opinion that he did nothing wrong and this is vindictive.

„Prosecuting counsel John Delaney said they agreed to differ about what had happened the night before and there was no contact between them after that. The woman reported the incident to gardaí in April 2019.“

“This convicted man, used sexual violence as a method of violence towards me," she told the court. She said he had violated her body, her mind, her sense of self and her sense of security in the world. It had impacted, she said, on every facet of her life. The woman said the night of the assault was the last night she would ever go to sleep believing she was safe and the thought someone would sexually violate her while sleeping was beyond comprehension.“

That’s a lot of drama for having reported the incident a year after the event, and after having agreed to differ on the matter. As stated earlier: a mockery..

Legally he's on the wrong side of this, which he's accepted. What emerged from this seems to be a much more complex collection of feelings and beliefs. He will get a sentence, which could be custodial, even though a suspended sentence might be the right choice on balance.

That's fine. I'll just pull you up on it the next time and point out the hypocrisy if you criticise anyone for any bad behaviour if the person has not been convicted of a crime for that behaviour. I'll remind you that your position is that you can not express any negative sentiment towards that behaviour unless a crime is proven.

Again, over-dramatizing it to paint him in a very bad light.

You are not at all willing to see all the other mitigating circumstances. Even using word "unconscious" to bolster your take.

Edit: Apologies to Fandymo. Should take my own advice.

i can't agree even if I believed he was wrong legally (which I don't) that a sexual assault conviction is a reasonable or fair outcome.

In the long run , a jail term is irrelevant as people will only see his conviction.

which is the same as one of the lads got from the case I linked above .