Karen Harrington jailed for life for the murder of Santina Cawley

i don't be tending to be leaving my kids with a drunk while I wander the streets at 3am on a Thursday night after a bender, I suppose that's a bit judgy

No different than reckless parents who allow young small children (without proper road sense) out to play unsupervised and a terrible accident happens, such as the child is knocked down and killed. Who's to blame? It's not the child, and not the car/motorist. It is the parents, who are supposed to be caring for their children. And I see this kind of recklessness a lot.

btw, just to be clear. That vile thing ended the child's life. I know this.

And I am only comparing this based off the responsibility aspect of it.

Sorry for going off topic

You too seem to be missing the point of parental responsibility....

Reckless actions/decisions made by parents that result in tragedy...

Example is this case. Example is leaving child alone with a dog unsupervised. Small child alone in a bath....endless examples

And the one I mentioned. Allowing small children out to play (no road sense) and unsupervised....

Yes, the car kills them, but it's the actions/decisions of the parents that allowed the situation arise.....

Let me get this straight so that we fully understand each other. You find it perfectly acceptable parenting on Mr Cawley behalf that at 10pm Santina was not tucked on u in bed asleep having been brought home given her tea bathed and read a story, like all normal 2 year olds.

1. Instead at 10pm she was in Aldi buying drink with her father with a view to going drinking in the open air with people who had been drinking for hours with the intention of going back to a flat to a flat to continue drinking. This to you is perfectly fine. Admirable almost
2. Then, in the early hours of the morning, still not safely in bed, her father had a roaring drunken row with his girlfriend calling her a whore and a prostitute in front of the child who must have been terrified. Perfectly acceptable?
3. Then he told the girlfriend to take Santina because he was going out and she refused. Despite her being very drunk, despite her refusing to take the child, despite them having had a violent row, despite there being no emergency, despite the lateness of the hour, he left her anyway. Perfectly acceptable?

What ??! If you knock someone down especially a child of course you are responsible. There is absolutely no correlation between a parent leaving a child out to play and bringing a kid on a drugs and drink binge. Get a grip.

I am not comparing. I am making a point about reckless parenting decisions.

Example: allowing young children with no road sense out to play unsupervised is reckless. You know, when you see small children with no road sense out playing on streets/estates where cars are and there is no parental supervision..

unless you’re claiming that there is nothing wrong with that?

and I am not talking about older children who do have road sense.

You literally said “no different than”

Read what I said..

the “responsibility” aspect of it…I clearly said this.

Just on the thing that murdered Santina. I saw an article today showing it out/free, titled “her last hours freedom before sentencing.” How in god’s name was this thing not in custody during all this?

Horrific to think after being accused of such a depraved offence, a court didn’t remand in custody

Paschal Sheehy trying to make sense out of the trial here. There seems to have been so much unsaid about the additional circumstances during that night that are generally known to have occurred.

The child's safety should be their priority, how many are used protecting government ministers and their families

Thay lot are a different breed though. One wrong foot and PP are on yoyr back. Terrible stuff all round.

Its terrible what that women did to that poor girl, but I mean you have your child for a single day to visit, why get **** smashed out of your head...

Why didn't the cops bust down the doors after a report of the child crying etc, surely they were concerned for the childs welfare...would she be here today if she did.

Sadly, she will get LIFE in prison which means a warm bed, warm meals, a great education and leave with a job at the end of it. A lot more than battling hard working adults get in this country.

From his exclusive Irish Mirror interview

Nonetheless, despite all of that Michael says he’s now being targeted on social media by individuals who have blamed him for his daughter’s death and accused him of “neglect.”

“I’m being bullied online. I seem to be getting painted as having neglected Santina by trolls who are giving a false definition of my character.

“Santina was never neglected and this case was not about drugs. I didn’t take any drugs, and nor is it about drinking or going to a house party beforehand.

The father was in court today

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/father-of-santina-cawley-pleads-guilty-to-assault-of-ex-girlfriend-who-murdered-his-child-41688888.html

Cawley convicted of assault. Details pretty nasty. Barrister called a momentary loss of composure, despite Cawley having a history of violent assaults.

Bottom line, the child stood very little chance of a normal life living among this cesspool.

Hardly surprising considering what she had done to his daughter

That is the bottom line and Harrington was only one of several people who failed her. It should be on all their consciences for the rest of their lives.

The father of two-year-old Santina Cawley who was murdered at an apartment in Cork city has been given a ten-month suspended sentence after he pleaded guilty to assaulting and causing harm to his former partner, who was jailed last month after she was found guilty of killing the toddler.

Irish Mirror

How was she out on bail?