Waterford GAA Thread - Mod note post #1

interesting

Your talking through your hole there anyway, I’m not even going to explain why because you clearly don’t go to club games or have a clue about who’s on or off panels from year to year.

Mark Fitz was better than most of them tenured lads who started too.

Oh sweet jesus

I still don't get how people say we were unlucky not to beat Kilkenny that day. We got a goal that was the definition of a square ball and somehow the ref decided to blow the final whistle when Matthew Ruth was inside our full back line with the ball.

Too much hype

Unfortunately we're not going to win the big one now from the 2013 - 2016 underage success. The most disappointing thing about the last couple of games is that we're as far away as ever from winning a senior all ireland.

Ah yeah Galway won fair play, but i thought that game could have gone either way. Waterford had a few bad wides towards the end that killed them, but Galway won the league and all Ireland double that year so fair play to them. Waterford could and should have built on getting into the final that year, but they didn't sadly. I'm a Cork person with a mother from Waterford, and a partner from Galway so i have a soft spot for both counties.

The 2002 All Ireland Semi - a poor Clare team ambushed us in Croke park. We had an 8 week layoff and players or management didn’t know how to deal with it. We started really well and I think only scored 5 points in a terrible second half. Unfortunately we’re still looking back at that defeat and all the others in between instead of looking back at an all Ireland win.

2017 was there for us. We didn’t really play well and lost by 3 points. Moran’s miss with less than 20 minutes to go to put us two points up was the turning point. Galway went and got the next 4 points in a row I think. A few things went against us in that final as well. Horgan trying and succeeding in getting Conor Gleeson sent off in the semi final, Shane Bennett rolling his ankle and having to go off after 25 minutes and our bench not having the impact we had all hoped. It was one of those days for Galway where more or less everything went right for them also.

That’s 5 years ago now and at the time, we were one year after the u21 win and no team looked like they were going to dominate. I think we all thought we’d get one final win on the board after that defeat. 5 years later we’re still without even a Munster and Limerick look like winning 4 since we walked out of Croke Park. Hard to believe as supporters we’ve only been back there once in championship hurling as well.

@Deiselurker Do we really want them to stay either?

Tbf I am sure that they have given everything to their roles, also not sure what can they get more out of the players. I'm not convinced any manager can do anything special with these players now without a big shake up but we don't seem to have players to fill the gaps left.

Very disappointing year!

Waterford were unlucky not to beat Kilkenny that night. Brian Cody came out afterwards and said that was the first time a Waterford team had gone toe to toe with Kilkenny in his time as manager and his reaction at the final whistle that night said it all. Matthew Ruth wasn’t inside the full back line either. Jamie Nagle let the ball through his legs around the 45 and as it slipped under him the referee blew his whistle just as the Kilkenny player took it up into his hand.

It was Shane Fives and Ruth was inside the full back line.

I am totally depressed after that performanc yesterday.

Its sad to see I have to say, they were completely dismantled and didn't put up a fight really.

it is hard to put a finger on where we went for being competitive and highly rated to being the whipping boys which is what we were once again yesterday. We may have been hyped up by our league win, but it wasn't as if we put out our strongest side in every game when others were putting out shadow sides. From the outside looking in it appears that we seem to lack Maturity and Mental strength. When i heard the changes yesterday prior to the game it reeked of panic. OK we had lost our two first choice full backs in Daly and Prunty and we were worried about Duggan's strength, so we dropped Tadgh back (who at this stage must hate the mention of Ennis) but why take our most effective forward and place him once again at centre back. This time last year Shane Bennett was parachuted in and had two absolute stormers as center back against Tipp and Galway and while he struggled a bit against Limerick there was no shame in that. When did Paudie Mahony become a Midfielder at the age of 30+ or Jamie Barron's return to a corner forward

Watching our warm up gave indicators of what was to come, the amount of dropped balls, fumbled pickups and poor hand passes was incredible and sure enough i think (without using a stats pad) we counted 1-6 in Clare scores in the first half alone that came directly from unpressured fumbles where we coughed up possession to Clare. I think the Clare left-half back repeatedly picked up about six puck-outs into his hand around 50 meters out the field without a Waterford player being within 10 yards of him and Shane O'Donnell repeatedly took puck-outs at his leisure - it was embarrassing the ease with which they dismantled us.

This is not because we have poor players, we quite simply turned up with no plan, no structure, no fight and no hope., and that for me is the most embarrassing thing.

I am not looking to throw anyone under the bus, but we have been following Waterford all over the country for the last 30 years + but having to put up yet again with collapses like yesterday is no longer acceptable This also applies to some of our underage performances. A complete review needs to be carried out as to what exactly did go on this year and put structures in place to ensure that this mental fragility is put to bed. Our County Board has to have a serious look at how it is going about its business, start putting proper resources in place.

For the supporters who travelled in numbers to Clare yesterday, and yes there were plenty of them there, you can hold your heads up, we did not let the team or management down. I only hope that the team and management can say the same this morning - special mention for Dessie Hutchinson yesterday , he never topped trying, he never hid and was a example of guts and character.

Im sure theyre a lot more upset than any of us. Theyve put in the work, it didnt even not pay off .. it blew up in front of us all. They deswrve a few pints and a breather now