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Polestar 2

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I would drive that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    Looks class

    400bhp
    78kWh
    150kW ccs

    59k limited edition to start with
    40k model in 2021

    Only negative is its probably low volume

    Would take one over Tesla Model 3


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's not a very large car, which is great. The wheelbase is only 35 mm longer than LEAF and length is about 120 mm more and about 90 mm shorter than Model 3. Great size actually. I still don't know if this is a hatchback or saloon. If hatch that would be a great improvement over the Model 3. interior looks busy in comparison but seems very nicely appointed. 400 km realistic range (500 WLTP is the target) would be savage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭dloob


    samih wrote: »
    It's not a very large car, which is great. The wheelbase is only 35 mm longer than LEAF and length is about 120 mm more and about 90 mm shorter than Model 3. Great size actually. I still don't know if this is a hatchback or saloon. If hatch that would be a great improvement over the Model 3. interior looks busy in comparison but seems very nicely appointed. 400 km realistic range (500 WLTP is the target) would be savage.

    I’ve seen a few articles on top gear and Autocar saying it’s a hatchback or fastback as polestar is calling it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭Petetheroadie


    I'm not the biggest fan of the styling on the outside. Interior looks great though! More competition in this price bracket can only be a good thing!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    I'm not the biggest fan of the styling on the outside. Interior looks great though! More competition in this price bracket can only be a good thing!

    Normally love Volvo's design work, but this looks like an awkward mashup of a Volvo and a Citreon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,666 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    That is fugly, would not have one.
    I'm still firmly an admirer of Teslas, iPace and etron


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭Petetheroadie


    ELM327 wrote: »
    That is fugly, would not have one.
    I'm still firmly an admirer of Teslas, iPace and etron

    The iPace is Fuglier than this though. Etron is ok, but not as sleek as any of the Teslas though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,236 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I think it looks class.

    Tesla is now boring as fk to look at . I see various model s on the road daily and they are a snore fest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    This is possibly the first EV that I am drooling over.

    I think it looks fantastic.

    Now, to get those Euromillions numbers tonight....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭Ryath


    More than a hint of the BMW X6 about it and I thought the GT 5 series was the ugliest BMW until I saw that . The liftback looks wrong on such a high car Polestar would look much better with a normal hatchback/estate style rear.

    Pity they didn't put more of the concept car into the design.

    volvo-concept-estate_100457948_l.jpg


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ryath wrote: »
    The liftback looks wrong on such a high car Polestar would look much better with a normal hatchback/estate style rear.

    I'd say the liftback is done to improve the aerodynamics. Estate bodystyle increases the drag quite a bit and hatchback to a certain extent too. It's not a coincidence that Tesla Model S/3 and Ioniq have a liftback like profile and have the best high speed efficiency compared to other EVs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    Have any of these arrived in Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Polestar 2 styling is a real disappointment when compared to Volvo's ICE efforts .....

    An EV with the styling direction of Volvo's ICE range would fly out the gate ......

    Look at the XC40 and the V60 and V90 - those are on a different planet styling wise


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Bjørn Nyland has first impressions video on now. I think this car really looks impressive. Love the styling both inside and out.

    The navigation system and the instrument cluster looks very very good with the exception of the front centre console. And it's a hatchback with a very generous size boot. Samih likes a lot.

    https://youtu.be/XfUNFBt8qAU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    I like it a lot too. I guess it's a direct competitor to the Tesla Model 3 LR AWD. Probably similarly priced (mid to late €50k here)? Or I guess more of a competitor to Model Y being a hatchback?

    Drive tunnel in the back and very limited rear head space are not good though if you have 3 kids and some of them will be taller than Bjørn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    Did Volvo buy up the old stock Saab 9-5 platforms?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    krissovo wrote: »
    Did Volvo buy up the old stock Saab 9-5 platforms?

    No, but plenty of their engineers used to work for SAAB. The 9-5 were based on GM platforms but the company was in middle of developing a new own independent platform when it went down. NEVS continued the work and the further developed Phoenix 2 platform for BEVs will be the end result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    If those engineers are the same bucks who took a 1988 GM platform to a place where it was achieving euro NCAP 5 stars then I'm delighted to see them coming to BEVs .

    Fine news .

    Gives me happy vibes about this car that the styling couldn't bring


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭TOLLOT


    I was quite taken with the look & spec of this too so I sent an e mail to
    Polestar asking about launch in Ireland.
    There no plans to launch it here at the moment I’m afraid.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    krissovo wrote: »
    Did Volvo buy up the old stock Saab 9-5 platforms?

    You ask that because of the similarity in looks between the Polestar 2 and the 9-5? Maybe that's why I like it, I had one of those. And I believe samih did too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    unkel wrote: »
    You ask that because of the similarity in looks between the Polestar 2 and the 9-5?

    To me they are identical and I do not mean in a bad way, 9-5 design is maturing like a good wine. Nice to see it live on was genuinely wondering if the design & tools was sold on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,188 ✭✭✭✭KCross




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    As expected roughly in line with the Model 3 pricing. Lower spec model will be interesting though. It's a lot cheaper!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    An XC40 EV with a 78 kwh battery sounds like the basis of a fine machine .

    XC40 well rated by reviewers as an ICE car - would take an inexplicable mess up to end up with an EV that's undesirable from that starting point


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yea, looks like the Polestar 2 is just a fancy XC40 with slighlty less space. And electric XC40 itself will also be introduced soon enough (2021 was mentioned). I wouldn't be a least bit suprised if that car was my next vehicle to eventually replace the L40.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭traco


    That is a nice car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    That photo makes it look a little like American muscle, camero from the front? Interesting look as the rear screams dentist style Saab but not in a negative way. XC40 is an interesting choice of launch EV, the 60 is more of an all rounder so must be a cost driven choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/polestar-2-will-cost-fifty-grand

    Top Gear say £49,900, sitting between Model 3 Long Range and Performance. Cheaper version to come.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭BigAl81


    Got a Goggle add for Polestar today. I had a look at the website.

    Taking orders now and "on the road in 2020", possibly September, which is only 3 months away!

    https://www.polestar.com/uk/polestar-2/

    Looking like a great addition to EV options.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭Petetheroadie


    Not a fan of the styling to be honest, it looks more like a Skoda than a Volvo, but good that there are more options coming for EV buyers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭irelandjnr


    m
    TOLLOT wrote: »
    I was quite taken with the look & spec of this too so I sent an e mail to
    Polestar asking about launch in Ireland.
    There no plans to launch it here at the moment I’m afraid.

    Typical.

    VW triplets are apparently not coming here either. We could always buy from UK and import, yeah?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭irelandjnr


    JohnC. wrote: »
    https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/polestar-2-will-cost-fifty-grand

    Top Gear say £49,900, sitting between Model 3 Long Range and Performance. Cheaper version to come.

    £47K on Polestar UK website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    irelandjnr wrote: »
    m

    Typical.

    VW triplets are apparently not coming here either. We could always buy from UK and import, yeah?

    IIRC there was a thing you could do years ago where you could order a new RHD car in Germany - or any EU country - and bring it back to register it here. Mercedes were trying to scupper it though, as their dealer network here were kicking off big time about it.

    It was a long time ago, but it was an EU thing where you could buy new anywhere in the EU. You'd still have to pay VRT on import, but you could get models and spec you couldn't get here.

    Importing from the UK is likely to get prohibitively expensive when they "take back control". :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    The only difficulty with purchasing abroad is that you lose the SEAI grant, and don't get to take advantage of a different countries grant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    liamog wrote: »
    The only difficulty with purchasing abroad is that you lose the SEAI grant, and don't get to take advantage of a different countries grant.

    Good point. The time I remember was well before EVs, so it wasn't an issue.

    I wonder if you could do it with the assistance of a dealer. What are the restrictions for the SEAI grant? If you're bringing in a new car through a dealership, and the first registration was in Ireland, would the grant not be available? The VRT reductions would probably apply as they do for a second hand car.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    The SEAI grant has to done through a dealer registered with the SEAI. Technically I don't think they can stop a dealer from abroad registering, but in practice its enough of a hurdle to prevent the action


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    liamog wrote: »
    The SEAI grant has to done through a dealer registered with the SEAI. Technically I don't think they can stop a dealer from abroad registering, but in practice its enough of a hurdle to prevent the action

    No, I meant with the help of a friendly dealer in Ireland.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    I wonder if Volvo dealers are able to source cars from Polestar. Cupra only have one dealer in Ireland, but SEAT dealers are able to act as agents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Zenith74


    Very very positive review from Robert @ Fully Charged - https://youtu.be/_cwD50F_RWw


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,544 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Zenith74 wrote: »
    Very very positive review from Robert @ Fully Charged - https://youtu.be/_cwD50F_RWw

    Johnny Smith reviewed it recently too:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Zenith74 wrote: »
    Very very positive review from Robert @ Fully Charged

    He gushes about anything & everything "green".

    I'd check out expert reviewers, like Bob Flavin for instance, for more impartial reviews :D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Zenith74


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Johnny Smith reviewed it recently too:


    Didn’t realise he left Fully Charged to go to another review channel, shame!


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    He didn't go to another channel so much as rekindle his own, details were never provided on the exact reason for the split, but he's got a good mix of new car content and some other interesting car related stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭return guide


    Kramer wrote: »
    He gushes about anything & everything "green".

    I'd check out expert reviewers, like Bob Flavin for instance, for more impartial reviews :D.

    I like Bob , but he is no expert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭Kramer


    I like Bob , but he is no expert.

    It's on his Youtube channel though :confused:.

    9kmeGZo.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Can we actually order this here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭Kramer


    A Volvo dealer told me the Polestar 2 wasn't due to be released here, or, if released, certainly not before next year.

    I like Volvos - just put an S80 T6 through the NCT, great car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Some real life tests "auf der Autobahn". Polestar vs Tesla Model 3 (two direct competitors)

    As can be expected, the Polestar uses 25% more electricity at speed (200km/h), this is not very important in terms of fuel costs, but it does mean with a similar battery capacity that the Polestar has 25% less range. And when it comes to filling up, the Polestar is pretty quick, but 25% slower than the Tesla. I guess it depends on your needs if this is relevant or not. I guess only if you regularly do very big distance driving (at speed) will it matter a lot. It is more quiet though at speeds, the reviewers are impressed with the quality of the car





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    Anybody know if this will be available in Ireland?
    I can’t believe they would build it in right hand drive for the U.K. and not sell it here too.
    I emailed Volvo Ireland asking about it and got no reply.


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