Strange New Worlds 1x01 - 'Strange New Worlds' ~~ { Spoilers Within }

~Rebel~ · 10-05-2022 1:05am

For the thing of turning down sedation/pain relief, my first thought was just that she has a history of addiction. Which would make a certain amount of sense after the trauma she went through of being a sole survivor.

Overheal · 10-05-2022 1:49am

This may sound dumb but the episode made me cry a bit. When they referenced the Jan 6 Insurrection. As an American it was kind of a lot, to process that 1) Ugh the show is going there, how tacky 2) How validating it equally felt that the show is going there 3) How utterly shameful it feels that this was the incident in the Trek Timeline that they chose to use as the dire warning to these dumbass aliens who wanted to blow themselves up, 4) how wonderful, strange, surreal the moment in the story was overall and how it culminated into the Prime Directive, the hopeful message and 5) just the shock of seeing one of my worst fears that I felt, on January 6th, realized as something I could see even if it was just some cheap imagery suggesting we had nuked ourselves in an all out civil war, like I was witnessing a real cautionary tale from the future almost.

fritzelly · 10-05-2022 2:43am

Lets not forget that this show only came about because the fans screamed it from the rafters that they wanted a Pike/Enterprise show with AM

If it wasn't for his brilliant scenes in Disco (god forbid we have to give that show any credit) this show would never have happened

As for Overheal - yeah but no, a few seconds clip and you latch on to that tiny bit

TheIrishGrover · 10-05-2022 7:36am

As for La'an not wanting to be sedated, I thought that that was her just not wanting to relinquish any control of her body due to her experience with The Gorn. Didn't want to be in any "compromised" state.

And yeah, the doc was great too. My only thing is the sight over-casualness of the navigator (Ortegas?). The "there's something hinky about the warp signature". But I was thinking about it later (and about the fact that they all seem to be SUPER qualified). It is the flag ship so it makes sense that they would have the best people available.

It really is just me. Complain when they are too stiff and one dimensional. Complain when they have quirks. 😃

Greyjoy · 10-05-2022 11:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119037950#Comment_119037950

I suspect that the tiny 3 person crew on the Archer was a 'shortcut' that the writers took to prolong the mystery of their disappearance. If the Archer still had other crew aboard it wouldn't have lost contact with Starfleet and the other crew could have informed Pike and the Enterprise about what the situation was on the surface. As it stands I don't think the episode adequately explained how the Kileans managed to capture the Archer crew who were in uniform and not in disguise like Pike and his landing party.

As for La'an and the sedation I thought that it might be down to her requiring a much higher dosage of sedative compared to a 'normal' human because of her genetic heritage and her not wanting that revealed.

breezy1985 · 10-05-2022 1:57pm

I thought there were only 3 on board because the whole mission was a cover up. Could have done the whole thing with a runabout type ship though in that case

odyssey06 · 10-05-2022 3:44pm

Beaming all the crew down to the planet just seems iffy ... even with a small crew someone should stay with the ship.

Overheal · 10-05-2022 7:11pm

As for Overheal - yeah but no, a few seconds clip and you latch on to that tiny bit

And if it had been a few seconds of Bloody Sunday maybe we'd swap shoes. Bloody Sunday clearly being the worse of the 2 examples of political turmoil.

pixelburp · 10-05-2022 7:48pm

Very late to the party here but wow. I know the other shows have started ok and gone downhill, but they were never this enjoyable, this robustly adherent to both the theme and pulse of Star Trek. If this series also slumped it'd be from a very great height cos I loved that opening episode.

Yeah there are some quibbles but honestly nothing remotely large enough to add caveats. It was so on point I honestly thought I was watching some hitherto unknown series from the 90s, with only the splashier aesthetics and quippier dialogue hinting at modernity.

Bravo. Third time of asking but live action Trek is back. Just don't fúck it up lads

AMKC · 10-05-2022 11:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119040983#Comment_119040983

The thing is this is the 23rd century and they do not yet have advanced Runabout type ships yet. They are not availible for nearly another century as the small warp cores used in them have not been invented yet. So hopefully they do not change that. That is why a small one nacelle ship was needed by them.

GSPfan · 11-05-2022 10:13pm

I’m so happy that i came here to tell you all that i loved it and I’ve found almost everyone agreeing.

I just can’t fault it so far. Here’s my thoughts…

• Opening credits are great. It fits in with TNG, DS9, VOY type credits. Loved it.

• The style of the clothes, hair, colourful sets are delightful to see. We know the show isn’t in the 1960’s so they need to update the look but it just feels nicely connected to TOS.

• I’m liking all the crew so far. Chapel could be fun or slightly annoying but I think she seems confident with a bit of flirty geeky charm to her. Spock is brilliant. Pike is just so good. La’an is the spit of Camina Drummer. She’s interesting and one to watch.

• The plot was good. Wasn’t overly happy with the Jan 6th stuff just because it’s too US centric. I was happy however that Pikes speech didn’t turn into an emotional train wreck of a speech ala Burnham where she whisper cries at people.

• Pike has hopefully resolved his immediate mortality crisis. I think they gave the issue enough importance and also gave it a plausible way to fade into the background.

• The preview of the upcoming season fills me with hope.

liamtech · 12-05-2022 12:52am

almost time for a new episode!!! - dont recall seeing a Modern Trek Thread this positive in a long time

Long may it continue -

Ladies and gentlemen - may the wind be at our backs... stations please

llap

pixelburp · 12-05-2022 6:16am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119049331#Comment_119049331

Said it already but if things go downhill from here it'll be from a much greater point of quality than (say) Picard season 2 managed. Already a more engaging, charismatic crew than Enterprise ever had (not that that's the point of comparison mind, just the last, definite "space adventures" Trek show we got)

Acosta · 13-05-2022 4:55pm

JayRoc · 15-05-2022 1:17pm

All in all I thought it was grand. Too early to tell really but enjoyable enough. I like Anson Mount, although he is playing it very very different to Jeffrey Hunter. But I guess that is probably deliberate.

Similarly, the guy (Peck?) playing Spock is fine, presumably he is doing his utmost to not just come out with a Leonard Nimoy impression which is the right move.

T'pring was physically very like the original actress from Amok Time, to the extent that I knew who she was supposed to be immediately...but what was with the kissing vulcans?

Of all the existing characters being played by new actors, Rebecca Romijn's Number One was probably the biggest departure. I suppose given that the Spock character ended up inheriting the whole "emotionless" shtick it made sense for her to be a more typical human but as a result she didn't seem have much going on in terms of personality.

No opinions yet on Uhura (I could have lived without her being shoehorned in, really) or Khan's niece or whoever she is supposed to be.

(Oh yeah...forgot about nurse Chapel. Wasn't gone on the portrayal, if I'm being honest. Probably my least favourite character so far. M'Benga was quite good actually)

Not having seen any if the appearances of this lot in Discovery I appreciate I may not be totally up to speed but I certainly am looking forward to some decent storytelling in self contained episodes, fingers crossed.

corkie · 25-05-2022 6:49pm

Star Trek - The Next Generation Writer on Strange New Worlds!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAf6guJXSC0

^^ From Mr. Sci-fi (Marc Scott Zicree) youtube channel!

He does like to talk about himself and what he has written or been involved in.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/First_Contact_%28episode%29

"First Contact" derived from a story that Marc Scott Zicree had pitched in the third season. Zicree recalled, "It's very hard to sell to Star Trek. They've gone months without buying any stories. I had done up something like 50 or 60 stories in pitching to the show. Usually I sell on the first or second story. I must have run fifteen stories by them before we hit 'First Contact.' Piller liked the stuff so he kept saying keep going.

In the above video he equates this episode to be a sequel to the concept for 'First Contact'.

He also mentions the 'Captain Sulu Star Trek pilot' which was made into 'New Voyages World Enough and Time'.

Evade · 24-06-2022 12:19pm

Very late to the party but that was really good and begs the question why the other six seasons of live action Star Trek are so poor in comparison. The crew seem so much more mature and professional than a certain other series and even when something like Uhura's "cool" slips out it's shown that that's not the norm like "the power of math" or many other Tillyisms.

The only real niggles I have, and I realise they're very minor, is calling it a warp bomb as opposed to a matter/anti-matter bomb/reactor seemed to be dumbing it down a bit too much and it's conn not comm. The latter wasn't just a flub on Mount's part, it's in the subtitle too.

DoctorEdgeWild · 14-07-2022 9:52am

Started a re-watch from the start last night. Really shows up DIS and how poorly they handled that (it's not all bad, I REALLY wanted to like it and it has some good points) but comparing SNW and DIS/PIC, it's like night and day. First episode gives us a great start and intro to the characters, and their relationships, the general state of the federation and universe, as well as the incredibly tricky balance between satisfying long time fans and providing accessibility to newcomers.

I didn't like Captain Pike/Anson Mount from his DIS appearances but he's got way more about him now, over the 10 episodes he shows not only the actor's ability to perform the character but the writer's abilities to form a realistic person.

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