Texas School shooting 19 children and 2 adults murdered

How sad for America if this is the answer. Accept you live in a country where people may try to kill you at school, accept that you’re public representatives have no intention to change that, accept that grandad can’t enjoy his retirement because he has to make sure you don’t get killed while you’re in class.

Tighter gun laws won’t solve everything overnight but it’s a start down a better path.

Because they can

Weasel words. The entire suggestion is just to try and not actually do anything about it. That is the only reason it is being suggested is to stop anythong coming in for gun control. And hey now they will blame the teacher when it happens. You know it will happen, they are already trying to blame parents for not tactically scouting the school first.

The side suggesting it are terrified of teachers with a book they haven't combed over and now they want to give them firearms? Will teachers get an educational discount on guns like ms office (stole that line from a teacher), will teachers get any training for this new role or just hope whatever is there works? The US public school system is horribly underfunded relying on teachers going the extra mile for students but sure let's add more to the plate.

I think we are past the good person with a gun being reliable. It failed in Texas, it failed in Buffalo. It can be a thing but isn't reliable and the US needs an actual attempt at a solution, not just trying to base schools on teenage dystopian fiction.

People don't shoot kids simply because they can.

I don’t understand the argument that if you make certain guns more difficult to obtain people could find ways around it so don’t bother doing anything.

If you make these guns more difficult to get it won’t stop all but it might stop some. If some looks to purchase upgrade parts if might set off alarm bells with the authorities, or some may choose to just use pistols which might limit the damage they cause.

America won’t ban guns, that’s obvious. The shocking thing is that their politicians will do nothing about it, not even something as simple as closing a background check loophole that has the support of the majority of Americans.

I was in Texas on business about a decade ago.

The local guys in our office there were telling me about some political move being made or just a rumour of Obama making gun buying more difficult meant the gun shops had record sales as folks stocked up. Talking about gun bans or even controls was worth a fortune to them.

There's no hope for these bloody people.

Ok, that explains why you thought a “concentrated volley” from a handgun against a body armoured person with an assault rifle made sense. It doesn’t work that way. A lone person with no armour and a handgun has no chance of stopping that.

i lived in the US for years, and like my US friends and colleagues , went to shooting ranges for fun some evenings after work. I got a license to carry and owned a gun (needed a license in the state I lived in). I understand the attraction Americans have for guns, the engineering and craftsmanship, the skill involved in shooting well. They won’t give them up.

The US needs federal law on it, leaving that up to states doesn’t work.

At a national level, they could enforce having to get a license, where the license needed a background check and training.

They could tax the crap out of ammo.

And ffs, don’t sell ak-15s to civilians

They can learn gun safety from Eddie the Eagle!