German UN Delegation Laughing at Trump

He was spot on there in fairness

Ignoring the rigged election and 2024 part, yes he was vindicated on that one. And on the so-called Sinophobic relations - now we dont like China, whereas when Trump was in and he didnt like China, we loved them because we couldnt possibly agree with Trump. Despite China putting Uighurs in camps, crushing democracy in Hong Kong, investing big in African and South American countries (look at how many ports etc China owns worldwide).

Belt & Road has nothing to do with Chinese investments in Africa, South America, and the Balkans.

Pre-Trump China was perceived as a not much of a threat, or at least any threat they posed was overlooked by the fact they were the worlds factory and supplied the US (and beyond) with cheap manufacturing. When Trump brought in protectionist policies designed to bring manufacturing back to the US from China it was decried as racist etc, but now the US are reaping the rewards of that particularly in semiconductor manufacturing. Were the US not to onshore more of the semiconductor manufacturing and China to take Taiwan they would be totally screwed, whereas now they would be significantly less so as more of these projects come on stream.

Under the Trump admin it was sinophobic and racist to consider the Chinese a threat, whereas now only a few years later they are widely recognised as such and its not controversial at all to criticise China now

Now this is revisionist nonsense. For starters, I suppose the 100k+ americans dead you are referring to is from covid?

More people died from covid in US post-Trump than during Trump admin for starters. Less than 500k people died from covid by the time of Bidens inauguration, now that figure stands at over 1million. And thats with the benefit of vaccinations being around for all of Biden's presidency.

It's like a compulsion people have to insist that everything Trump did was wrong lol. If he said the sky was blue youd say it was a lie 🤣

You said hundreds of thousands, so I said 100k+ in relation to your claim.

You're correct, the real figure is above a million now as I said in my post if you'd read it. Over half of that million occurred during Biden's term as president, even when he had vaccines available as a measure to fight it.

The "never trump" delusion goes on

Can you point to anything anti- covid vaccine from Trump? The man lauds himself for creating the "fastest vaccine in history". He has been pro-vaccine on covid and always asked for americans to get his "great" vaccines. The best, fastest, most wonderful etc.

Ah right. So in conclusion you have no proof of his trying to persuade anyone not to take vaccines, but because you personally dislike Trump you will try and blame him for the covid deathrates under the next president, Biden. Right. Good man, very logical.

Your "proof" is that several anti-vaxxer twitter users also interacted with/posted on Donald Trump's tweets. The article even says itself that Trump did not make "overt anti-vaccination statements as president". That does not equate to him going on "a concerted attempt to dissuade people from getting the vaccine" as you earlier claimed. So far you have provided no evidence that he attempted to dissuade anyone from getting the covid vaccine.

All you have proved is you have a huge chip on your shoulder 🤣

Poor excuse for an academic paper if thats their conclusion. From their own paper:

An infamous tweet from 2014 implying a link between child vaccines and autism, not exactly the anti-covid conspiracy pushing you state he is so fond of.

So yet again, the idea that he tried to persuade people not to get covid vaccines is a falsehood promoted by yourself.

Ready to admit you were wrong?

What ever else about him and if he had any self control at all he would have won reelection by a landslide.

He was spot on about Germany but it would not have been him that pointed out that Merkel, and an entire slew of German political, business leadership were Russian controlled, that would have been the Intelligence services.

He did try to draw attention to it though.

The damage done to Europe will take years to overcome.

If European politicians, wider leadership etc had listened would Putin have Invaded Ukraine, if his key assets had been called out.

Germany wasn't just undermining its own interests but wider European democracy and economies.

Germany still needs to be forced to pick the side of democracy in Europe, that basic human rights, the right to life, trump* any loyalty to Moscow, covert or otherwise. That the right to exist in a democratic state does not stop on the eastern border of Germany, that favourable trade deals with Moscow do not negate those rights.

*Pun intended.

It was not a dumb move, it was highly strategic and gave him more dominance over European energy than he would have otherwise.

It might not have been explained to Merkel, Scholz and Schroeder in that blunt fashion but they knew that their orders were purely about Moscow's needs.

Dumb for Germany not Putin.

But he's now thrown all those gains away. Which was dumb

Ah now, Trump was talking out both sides of his mouth. He took the vaccine but was very slow to endorse them publicly.

Biden inherited a complete shítshow from Trump, the majority of covid deaths in Biden’s term would still fall on Trump for his inaction and wilful ignorance.

He’s doing the same now, speaking at an NRA show in Texas but banning guns from the venue.

His “followers” didn’t seem to get the message, by the looks of things. Maybe they were confused by his, near, constant attacks on mask mandates, lockdowns and spreading misinformation on the virus.

He handled the pandemic terribly and a lot of people died as a result. There’s no denying that. Biden will always have the excuse that the situation he inherited was already too far ahead for him be at fault for the excessive deaths.

Can you show me evidence of him disparaging the vaccine? Other than a scientific study that you have misinterpreted, which shows Trump followers & people interacting with him on twitter were anti-vax. The study even pointed out that Trump himself did not have any anti covid vaccine statements.

First it was that he spread anti covid vaccination stuff, now you are backtracking to a general "anti-vaxx propaganda" before the pandemic hit. Baseless nonsense from yourself.

I have already posted evidence earlier in the thread chronicling Trumps pro-vaccine stance and how it hurt his reelection campaign and proved unpopular with his base, but yet he still pushed on promoting covid vaccinations regardless. Dont let the truth get in the way of your own biases though.

And again you bring up the "Trump cult" - I am not a Trump supporter, nor am I trying to shut down dissent, you seem to be projecting here. The only one trying to shut down dissent is you by adopting a fingers-in-ears approach and ignoring the truth even when its right in front of you.