"Green" policies are destroying this country

Perhaps you need to ask yourself how many people you are prepared to kill in pursuit of unreliable and inefficient electricity generation technology?

Here is 10 years of data from across Europe showing the productivity of random energy generation. It is clear that it is not possible to power a modern industrial society by relying on this for generation and that actual experience shows that the costs of managing this have increased in that time and will continue to rise. There is no way forward with this technology, they won't touch nuclear, yet they want to shutdown coal and natural gas and depend on extension leads?

Over the decades we have become used to walking into a dark room, being able to flick a switch to turn on a light. All of our work is made easier through the use of cheap energy, if it is not there or becomes too expensive to consume, much of our current employment disappears, we are revert to a less productive mode of employment, last experienced in pre-electrified Ireland.

The current policy pursued by the government through the CRU and Eirgrid must directly lead to power shortages, and a situation like experienced in South Africa today with regular blackouts, Eirgrid use the term "demand management units".

Consider also the economics of the current inflationary spiral driven by shortages, what happens to an electricity company when 20% of its customers cannot pay their bills? The Irish government thought the credit scheme would overcome a temporary crunch! From Australia: Shocking electricity price rises starting in Australia — so bad that small retailers ask customers to leave & Energy Crisis picks up speed Downunder: Now a major Gas retailer goes under.

The people are being taxed and that tax money is handed over to the fossil fuel industry.

The fossil fuel companies don't pay the taxes. 2.1 billion worth of tax rebates and 300 million in direct payments in one year alone.

Is it? Where? State subsidies for energy production provides support for the cost of energy production. That subsidy doesn't go to the the "fossil fuel industry". Unless you are suggesting we should go cold turkey and stop buying all coal, oil and gas right now?

Check your table - the direct payments include all types of welfare and fuel allowances for the disabled etc. Nothing to do with fossil fuel industry been given taxes.

Other 'direct' subsidies via tax exemptiins are for exploration and R&D, and there's fck all of that happening.

And its the buyers of all types of fuel who pay taxes and other charges on fuel.

The biggest take on tax is what the government slaps on the price of fuel and that goes straight to the exchequer.

"A house built using "green technology" will be far warmer than any house previously build based on using oil to heat it."

But hang on, in a comment just a few back posts you were claiming that Irelands climate is "very mild" in reply to the point made that people may not be able to afford heating this winter. How's that work?

But more importantly if our climate is "very mild" why would anyone here therfore need to use a "big oil boiler to heat up water to a very high temperature to try and heat as much as possible"?

Anyway looks like that and the idea "green technology ... to keep the house at a constant temp all year around" might not be so good for you after all.

"Having the central heating on may be contributing to our ballooning waistlines, Dutch researchers suggest.

They say higher temperatures in homes, offices and hospitals provide more comfort, but mean bodies no longer need to burn extra calories to keep warm."

Maybe we don't really need those bicycles after all?

Also the environmental movement want every house to have solar panels. This gives households a source of very cheap energy that's independent from government or corporate interests. Combining modern solar, batteries and energy efficient buildings and appliances means following green policies will hugely reduce energy insecurity

Energy unlocks potential. Decentralised, sustainable energy production is the next step in the unfinished industrial revolution.

I'm not saying people can immediately go fully 'off grid' with solar panels but it makes households much less reliant on the grid.

Who is manufacturing your Green solar panels and batteries? At what dirty cost so we can salve our conscience in western Europe?????

I reckon there's also a serious issue where opinion on renewables and other related issues are being confused with factual answers.

There's a noticeable and prevading line of thought that where some green advocates have opined about something green - then apparently there's no need to discuss anything further.

A very strange position where greens are looking a buy in from the general public tbh

A notable example of this recently was Eamon Ryan, who unilaterly ruled out nuclear power as an option in the transition from fossil fuel, despite mounting calls from environmental voices to consider it.

Personally I'd like the idea considered by the government as a whole and not just Mr Ryan deciding that where he doesn't like something its not going to happen. See his attempts to stonewall the Appraisal program for the Barryroe oil and gas field and his attempts to interfer with an Bord Pleanála over the Shannon LNG terminal.

'Lol'

When the Government takes your money through taxes on the fuel you buy, and uses it to subsidise fossil fuels for low income families, where does that money end up going?

I'll give you a hint, (its to the fossil fuel industry)

Nope. When in here and now and people have little or no choice to buy fossil fuels to keep themselves warn - these subsidies help people do that and keep the lights on.

But sure fekm. As someone else here said sure doesn't Ireland have a very mild climate anyway or something

But let's not forget, not only are those fossil fuels helping raise huge amounts of tax for the government, a sizeable portion of of those taxes are available for both renewables and supporting alternative energy production in the period of transition to renewable energy generation

That is unless you are suggesting the entire country goes cold turkey tomorrow with no fossil fuels whatsoever? Somehow I don't think you're going to get a lot of support there Akrasia.

"The inflated prices are due to the war in Ukraine."

Wrong & Incorrect. Electricity prices were through the roof right across Europe long before the Invasion of Ukraine

With the volatility in gas and electricity markets haven been highlighted as being one of the casualties of the clean energy transition programme back in October 2021

"Since most countries still rely on fossil fuels to meet all their power demands, the final price of electricity is often set by the price of coal or natural gas. If gas becomes more expensive, electricity bills inevitably go up, even if clean, cheaper sources also contribute to the total energy supply"

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2021/10/28/why-europe-s-energy-prices-are-soaring-and-could-get-much-worse

"As you have brought it up again, you have yet to propose an alternative to the marginal pricing policy, mainly due to the fact you know shite all about I reckon."

Why are you always on about posters bringing up the marginal price policy, Ban? But perhaps more importantly why do you have to be abusive about it?

Lots of posters have mentioned the EU marginal price policy for electricity. But every time I seem to mention it, you parachute in out of nowhere to ask what the "alternatives are"!

Can ye no look that yourself man?

Anyway you want an answer to the question you're using as some type of big lump of wood to try and whack people with. Grand.

I'll go with Charlie14's answer when you asked him the exact same daft question

The alternative is to stop charging everything in the mix at the price of the most expensive component.

The joke was on you there sunny where you thought the comment it was about an actual "memo" 🌞 lol

Tbf your comment is up there with the Russians bombing Kerry, their not being enough dead dinosaurs of the Irish coast and some posters not knowing Ireland had any natural gas resources amongst others 😁