"Green" policies are destroying this country

7% more than any party who support Nuclear in Ireland

even though I didnt count everyone in the world, I assume reports are correct and theres around 7 billion people on the earth. Wasnt it around 2 billion in the early 1900s? We are headed down a bad road - and I think we are just years too late to do anything about it, Forget 'saving the earth' - the earth is just fine and will live on without us. Its the human race that will die, so we'd be better figuring out how to GTFO of the planet and go elsewhere than trying to 'save' anything. to little too late. We should have been treating the issues as serious as we are (pretending to) now, from right after the WW2. humanity was too late in that regard

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This was your message which you've repeated many times in this thread btw

"Rinse and repeat, still going on about wind.

As I said wind is one renewable, plent others"

And then DaCor appears quoting MM "going on about wind" lol.

I'm sorry but it was comic timing and the two of you thinking there was an actual memo!

Look fair enough you made a booboo.

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0% of the political parties did, or will campaign on a manifesto that includes building a nuclear power station in the Republic of Ireland

Even the greens have softened their stance on opposing Nuclear on environmental concerns, for purely political reasons no party will commit that many resources to a project that would definitely be delayed for decades in court and planning challenges

They may not in the past, but from 43% in favour overall and 60% of the 18 - 24 age group, I would be very surprised if all parties were not taking a fresh look at it with an eye to inclusion in a manifesto.

That will never happen

Wanna put a bet on it? 50 euros to charity if a single party puts that on their manifesto and gets more than 7% of the vote in the next election

The materials used in constructing solar panels or wind turbines are relatively easy to recover and recycle. The waste products from burning fossil fuels are incredibly expensive to recover and have planet changing consequences if we fail to do so...

Whatever the reading appeal of that particular article, your particular use of phraseology again is incorrect there and would seem to deliberately conflate generation of electricity in nuclear power plants with nuclear military weapons (nukes)

Nuclear technology like everything else has moved on significantly in the last two decades with new smaller modular nuclear power stations now a reality. I've already posted this. Maybe you didn't read it?

If Russia controls 46% of global uranium production, much of which they use themselves , then that means that othrt countries combined control 54% of uranium production and more than enough for the use global nuclear energy globally

Intetestingly enough China is currently the world's largest producer of wind and solar energy products (much of it produced via coal fired power energy generation) which it sells to countries around the world. I mean, 'what could potentially go wrong with giving them that level of control over the renewable energy generation technology lol'

I learned the hard way a long time ago not to bet on politics. Still, looking at the results of that poll, especially the high approval from the 18 -24 age group, I would be surprised if politicians haven`t noticed. I certainly do not believe from that percentage, or the overall percentages for that matter, it`s a subject that should be shouted down simply because some do not like it. That is not what the principle of democracy is based on.

So what's with the false panic then?

Critical infrastructure will have backup power, whether that's diesel generators or their own battery reserves

Small scale nuclear is now a reality Maybe you haven't informed yourself on that development?

"Talk to any person with an environmental leaning"

A what now? I believe you're conflating populist rhetoric with reality.

With the greens in this country, their own program for public transport is being ignored in favor of Eamons favourite topic - bicycles. Where's the active investment in trains or any other workable countrwide solution to transport? Not just a bunch of cycle lanes in the leafy suburbs.

The green party policy on transport amounts to little more than aspirational waffle with lots of buzzwords and whilst the same policy may talk the talk with lots of options, its the following line which shows just how out of touch with reality the green party are

Incentivise the adoption of cycling as a main mode of transport through financial supports

For anyone who has ever been a committed cyclist in this country - that's a load of waffle. Cycling in Irish conditions is at best challenging. Weather including strong winds, lots of rainfall and numerous steep hills and inclines mean that cycling can never be a year round "main mode of transport" for the majority of people. And whilst a bike may get you from A to B on short journeys where conditions are favourable - its not possible to transport a week's shopping or indeed anything larger than a couple of recycled carrier bags. Significant intercity or other long distance journeys for the majority of people cannot feasibly be undertaken by bicycle. The list goes on.

The rest of that section of the green party policy is only worth highlighting because it is truly backward looking Dancing at crossroads stuff which envisons reducing " building self-sustaining communities" so people don't have to travel. So that's everyone back in their village then

Apparently a key element of this new transport policy is to "Increase understanding among An Garda Síochána, the Judiciary and the Coroners’ Service of the role they have to play in framing public attitudes towards active travel" and to "Invest in active travel promotion and regulate advertising which promotes unsustainable modes of transport"

Which all seems to boil down to Green Speak for using lots of depictions of gore and accidents, Just to further ram home the evils of automation!

I think we can firmly leave much of our green partys policy on transport and its implementation where it belongs. In the recycling bin!

As for Nuclear bizarrely being slated by some greens including our Eamon. Strange that its hated with such fervor when it produces even less Co2 emissions than any other energy generation method including wind and solar 🤷‍♂️

I think you've confused populism with democracy

Politics is 'the art of the possible'

You're free to vote for any party you like, but none of the mainstream parties will putting any commitments to build a nuclear facility in Ireland.

Anyone that does, my first questions to them would be Where are you going to build it?

They'd never answer that question because they know that it would result in their share of the vote in that region of the country collapsing

Even if they answer that question, the follow up questions, How long will it take, how much will it cost and who is going to build it will be enough to show them up for what they are.