Texas School shooting 19 children and 2 adults murdered

Stop. It's been decades since Columbine, and nothing substantial has happened. Las Vegas. Nothing.

Do you think the matter hasn't been discussed objectively? Something like 90% of US citizens favor a gun registry. No action. Lots of examples like this.

The only ones not acting objectively are the gun nuts, and using their minority position to stack the SCOTUS with RCC members who are pro-2A and worthless when it comes to rights for actual live people.

look they could be right on the numbers, they could be wrong, theres a 20k difference in numbers, I can see where they got the number

i never said its say as risky as say being a diver welding on oil rigs

its riskier than say sitting in an office chair, posting **** on boards all day

its say 4 times riskier than the average job, so risky, yes

Of course it matters more you fool. It's children.

If you acted perfectly in every situation, little to no harm would ever come to you. I think that when we talk about the riskiness of a job, human error is implied.

The US is to quote a US movie "is going full retard".

How any sane nation or sane state can consider background checks on prospective gun owners, never mind often high calibre rapid rate of fire weapons (and yes a semi auto with a big magazine is rapid fire when compared to old fashioned weapons) to be effectively inconsequential is beyond me and most people in the rest of the world.

A lot of people in the US appear to be living in a continous state of fear and another chunk are living with a constant hatred of any one but their own group.

The media and Hollywood in particular have created a myth where the only history that matters is the importance of the gun.

It started with eulogising the wild West and the place of the gun in it.

Of course they for the most part left out the fact that a lot of the gun fights involved people being shot in the back or that a hell of a lot of the cowboys were black.

Then moving into more modern times where every cop show or "shoot em up" movie involves more deaths and more weapons than one would find in the Donbas.

Often the excuse for these weapons in real life is the fear of central federal government. One would swear they lived under a dictatorship in the last couple of hundred years, never mind a democracy.

When was the last time they were invaded (and no don't count them loosing a few inconsequential island in the Aleutians please)?

Their kids are being slaughtered in school by effectively other kids which yes means there are huge mental issues not being resolved or recognised.

But if these young men, kids only a few years ago, did not have such easy access to high powered weaponary there would be way less carnage.

Yes they could still attack people with a kitchen knife but how many less would be hurt.

"The land of the free and the home of the brave" was always a questionable slogan with the way they treated minorities and new arrivals, but nowdays it could be more apt to say "the land of the fearful and the home of the moron".

Sorry if that offends some of our American brethren, but fook me how can you condone the slaughter of 19 kids aged between 8 and 11 by doing nothing to rectify the failings.

Again, so far this year more kids died by guns in schools than US cops died by gunfire on the job.

Not sure you're watching too many TV shows but you're completely overblowing the risks they face.

So, being a cop in the US isn't a dangerous job. Would ya ever get ta fcuk.

107 cop deaths in the line of duty so far in 2022. Some were shootings, but most were other events, car crashes etc. https://www.odmp.org/search/year

And Texas doesn't exactly pay them a fortune. $46,786 to $57,615. Source: https://www.indeed.com/career/police-officer/salaries/TX

Yep, this is a base salary so cops can make more money if they do overtime, but so can a delivery driver or a farmer. Ziprecruiter.com says that in Texas, the average salary in the Average Jobs category is $56,536. So cops are barely making the average wage.

Fcuked if I'd be a cop over there.

Cops tried to paint a picture of themselves as heroes , but the more that comes out paints them as cowards. On the scene for 80 minutes and stood by and did nothing.

This isn't Trump's doing. It's the Secret Service who make the rules. They did the same when Mike Pence (the US VP at the time) gave a speech in 2018.

This may have been mentioned before but the front page of this online satirical paper says it all.

Apparently they have the same headline after every mass shooting but put them all together for this one.

They are openly admitting to be okay with officers lying as well (if it wasn't already clear about how regularly they've lied in the past regarding incidents where they look bad). Unfortunately the media and most of the public take everything they say as being the truth.

its pretty normal for events to slightly off in the heat of the moment, you do realize this, perhaps they shouldn't do a press conference until they have the picture but I'm sure the likes of yourself would be crying for a cover up

I've read in today's Indo that a boy who survived the massacre said that a a cop told children to say if they needed help. Someone in the boy's group did that and Ramos overheard it and killed a 10-year-old girl and shot at the cop and then the cops returned fire.

If Ramos had been supposedly contained in the classroom in which he apparently barricaded himself then how was he able to kill a child when the cops were already in the building?

I think that it's possible that some cops who arrived at the scene will be charged with manslaughter.