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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭growleaves


    "If you aren't able to produce this, could you explain why not?"

    Because they haven't said that. They've simply put out disturbing fictional and non-fictional material and many people regard their 'talking points', the quality of their thoughts and their enthusiasm for privacy-reducing tech as signs that they are neither good nor trustworthy.

    "And you did lie. You claim to have the read the article. This isn't true."

    You are as mad as a box of frogs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Yup. In the article it makes no mention of people being prohibited from having personal belongings. That's something invented by conspiracy theorists to trick folks like yourself who did not read the article.


    And in Star Trek are not able to "travel privately".

    In fact, civilians are shown using transporters to travel around Earth. Can't think of a more invasive thing that having your entire atomic structure scanned, logged and registered...


    I find it weird when conspiracy theorists claim to be Star Trek fans... Did you guys miss the whole speech about the first duty being to the truth?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Ok. So then you disagree with the claim that the WEF's goal is to remove the concept of ownership by 2030? You believe this claim is false?


    And your insult isn't really very consistent when you're describing this innocuous article you didn't read as "disturbing".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭growleaves


    "It describes that people outside the city in which this woman lives are free to own whatever they like."

    True although in what sci-fi world would a collection of free people be living on the periphery of some anodyne slave city?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lol. The article doesn't say anything about a "slave city."


    Also, you claimed that the article stated that no one would own anything. You now agree that is false.

    Why do you claim the article says things it doesn't?

    Why are you inventing things to be "disturbed" by?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭growleaves


    It's my own characterisation of life in this city.

    Yep it's only people in the urban society in which the narrator lives who will "own nothing". Soz for the error

    Hopefully the free peoples will conquer the cities, establish private property rights, announce that slavery is immoral and outlaw it, and create a worthwhile society over the charred ruins of this sterile dystopia.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    People on Twitter does not mean a whole lot... If they believe that this was the WEF plan for 2030, they're in the conspiracy theory bracket.

    Please start quoting some sections from the article that are dystopian...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭growleaves


    I would like to see the inhabitants of this city have the same rights that you and I have as guaranteed by the Irish Constitution.

    You and I don't share our living room with rando creeps and "own nothing" do we?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Ok. So you are just making things up about the article and claiming it says and implies stuff it doesn't.

    You are disturbed by the bits you are inventing.


    And all about an article you didn't read...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Still no luck on finding that youtube video you claimed to have seen?

    Or gonna own up and admit you lied?


    I mean, it's pretty weird to just make up a video that doesn't exist...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    Twitter is full of woke social justice warriors etc so I'm told and they're lefty believe in the science and all that lark.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    It does exist, you're intelligent creative and innovated. So go find it yourself. You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

    Or vuuu bvuil vwoon naaathing and vuu bvuil bvee vappy.... said by the villain himself.

    The loon also said there's going to be wars, lots of angry people.....food shortages and a lot more.

    I'm not going to point it out to you, because it's staring you in the face.


    And so, after two years of lockdowns required them to do their plotting by Zoom, the self-appointed Masters of the Universe have met again in Davos, Switzerland, presumably in a castle shaped like the skull of a vicious animal, to run our lives.


    That’s not hyperbole. (Well, the part about the castle is both a bit of hyperbole and a travesty against those who remember better than I the details of early ‘80s cartoons.) Thousands of corporate CEOs, politicians and other billionaires itching to run the world have come together for the 2022 retreat of the World Economic Forum (WEF). The WEF, of course, is run by Klaus Schwab, a combination of ‘80s Lex Luthor and Dr. No, who declared at the opening event that “the future is being built by us....


    .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,386 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    You've seen a relatively tiny proportion of lunatics make a big noise about the WEF on the internet. Fanatics, grifters and their evangelists can produce an extraordinary amount of content. Look at Qanon, that whole loon-fest was started with one made-up internet post.

    Type "moon landings" into Youtube a few years ago and you would have seen almost nothing but wall-to-wall moon landing conspiracy videos. Some irrational people equate volume with "truth". A belief of if there's so much of it, there must be something to it. And the people who perpetuate this stuff know that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    More ranting.

    It doesn't exist. I have looked.

    You lied.


    Be honest man. Why are you lying? Why are you so upset and triggered when people point out that's what you guys do all the time?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭growleaves


    "And in Star Trek are not able to "travel privately".

    In fact, civilians are shown using transporters to travel around Earth."

    There were hover cars on Earth and Vulcan. Spock used one for personal transport.

    Harry Mudd owned a hover car in the original series.

    "In the article it makes no mention of people being prohibited from having personal belongings."

    It's implied that this is normative for the society, whether by law or due to the economic circumstances of the average person. The "everywoman" narrator who typifies this world has no personal belongings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    Still trying to figure out if you're a bot, have multiple accounts etc or have clout in the civil service or political sphere.

    It's well known that Shwab said you'll own nothing and you'll be happy...

    Is there something wrong with your laptop/tablet and phone ?

    It comes up in seconds on mine.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    But you can't provide any proof and we can point to fact checks that say it's nonsense. In relation to multiple accounts, I'm not sure if you can say much on that front....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭growleaves


    "The pursuit of happiness" is Lockean-speak for the pursuit of property and the right to hold it, so "owning nothing and being happy" is a perfect inversion of that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    There you go again, using the other one. Jayzus will you make up your mind.

    Anyhow your fact checks are probably left wing sources.

    Look it doesn't bother anyone if you have a few different accounts, I'll answer both.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    Maybe he meant you'll owe nothing and you'll be happy, could be a mispronunciation.

    They'll clear our debts and we'll all be happy. Better wages, welfare,free energy etc

    I doubt it somehow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    You're saying on the brink over the last 20 years, nice try at back peddling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    I hope you’re right, personally I can see their plan failing miserably.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Mob really seems to intimidate you guys. 😂 Still no source provided..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    So you're saying that he's intimidating us without a source.

    Stealthy like a sasquatch is mobbers :)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    It's already collapsing, same as Bill Gates and the others. Despicable individuals.

    Even Gates was pissed off when omnicron was better than his vaxxizzzzeeenz.

    If you knew who in Ireland had invested in PPE during the pandemic you wouldn't be surprised...

    The trail is quite interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    There's never any actual mention of them owning those cars. And Mudd is a criminal and used as an example of an exception in the Federation of some one driven by greed, so not a good example there.


    And no, it's not implied. You're inferring because the conspiracy cranks you got the description of the article from are telling you to do so. They're telling to do so because they're trying to make the article sound as bad as possible to prove it's part of a giant conspiracy.

    And again, it's all irrelevant.

    Can you point to any other things this Danish politician has written, said or done that indicates that they want this kind of future?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Yes, I'm sure you're still trying to dream up a fantasy to make you feel better. But your fantasies aren't true man. I'm not a bot. I don't have multiple accounts and I don't work in the civil service or political sphere.

    Remind us, what was your previous account(s) here?


    And it might be well known among conspiracy theorists, but you guys are liars and are often wrong. As you demonstrate, you claim and believe things without ever actually questioning them or checking if it's true.

    If it comes up in seconds, why aren't you posting it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Yes, conspiracy theorists have been claiming this for the last 20+ years.

    You contend that conspiracy theorists here are not doing so. I disagree, but even if I concede the point, my argument still stands as conspiracy theorists have been making the same predictions of a global take over for decades with no success.


    So if you aren't arguing that the WEF aren't on the brink of taking over, when do you believe they will take over?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    Calling people liar's isn't exactly going to gain you any respect from anyone who's oppositional to you.

    Nor will it gain you any trust or respect from people you are debating. It an emotive tactic from you to throw a person off and you put in those accusations to pent people up.

    If you think you're very clever and well able to sort out conspiracy theorists, you should know how to conduct yourself in their sphere.

    I think you're a bit of a conspiracy theorist yourself and you don't want to admit it.

    The leaders of the world are misleading people, they are definitely all if not most of them especially in the western world reading from the same script .

    Democricy is just a word nowadays,it has no meaning. They lie before an election and nothing changes. They try to talk their way out of it, spinning left right and center. At the moment we're being told about food shortages because the Ukraine is the food basket of Europe. It's not, people can live on more than bread and grain.

    By telling people there's going to be food shortages, potentially no electricity, during the winter. Power shortages for the population but feed it into data centers while everyone else is in a black out isn't exactly right is it.

    Telling us we're better off buying electric cars and it's free to top up, but when enough people have the cars they'll start charging. Imagine how much it'll cost on your electrical bill when you plug in your car. A lot more than Petrol or diesel. You'll be barely able to leave the house.

    They'll squeeze every last ounce of freedom from us and we'll be dependent on our leaders and not each other. That's if we go along with them,as we're being lead to a life of limitations, imagine telling your grandkids years ago you could drive anywhere you wanted, go to the beach, fly to another country in the sky and it was easily affordable.

    Why did it all change they'll ask. Because old men who smell like wee at the end of their game told us they wanted to take our freedom from us, and we let them. Sounds like a fantasy doesn't it and farsighted. But the average person now is starting to wake up to these aul lads who sound very nice and soothing to listen to. Fake smiles and promise's. All sinister and I don't trust them.

    But since people are being exposed to their lies and manipulation look at Soros he's like dracula, Schwab is an out and out bond villain, gates is just an empty shell and trying to create artificial breast milk. Come on Kingmob year's ago he got his windows into almost every house in the country, we were all looking out while he had the power to look in. His operating systems were in every, home office and building in the world. Peppered with viruses, his operating systems were always glitching and anyone who'd come up with something better were quickly undermined.

    Do you think we're going in the right direction for the good and all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,386 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Right, but you just made up a bunch of generalisations, then railed against them like they were true.

    Is there any actual conspiracy you believe in?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    I'd believe in subtle agendas more so than outright conspiracy theories.

    Look at the pandemic, nobody should have been able to profiteer from it, and the green energy agenda attracts people trying to make out they're doing good rather than filling their pockets. I've an unsavory way of communicating but my actions are intended to be better than what's tapped out here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lol. Wall of text. Didn't bother reading any of it.


    If anyone had an issue being called a liar, then maybe they shouldn't lie about stuff. I don't really care if I have the respect of people who believe the world is flat and the holocaust didn't happen.


    Any luck on finding that video you keep lying about. You've had time to write this block of waffling nonsense, so you surely have time to post a simple youtube link.

    Is it because you can't find the video?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    I didn't even bother reading your response after the first paragraph, touche..

    Two can play that game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I'll summarize then. Did you find that video you claim exists?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm still waiting for JFK Jr to rise from the grave and arrest Joe Biden.

    I used to laugh at conspiracy theorists until I came to the correct conclusion that they are people with mental health problems.

    Now I just feel bad for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    Don't feel so bad, you've better things than to be worried about than conspiracy theorists. They're not to be taken seriously. Feeling bad for conspiracy theorists is a sure sign of too much wasted empathy and compassion. You're far better off being productive with realistic conclusions.

    I didn't hear about the JFK arresting Biden one but that's a bit off the wall don't you think ?



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