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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,743 ✭✭✭zv2


    Mariupol prisoners. I just skipped through this guy's propaganda but you might be interested


    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,049 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Meanwhile in Paris, French tennis has welcomed Russian players onto the Roland Garros courts for the French Open.

    Could the French not even give a bit of a lead is making Russian athletes pariahs and sending a strong message back to the motherland. What would it have cost them?

    C**ts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,931 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    It's not the athletes fault fo that their country is at war with another.

    They have nothing to do with it and probably hate it too. They just want to do there job in sport whatever that is.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    The French are a shining example of European values, we can but aspire to emulate them



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,049 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    That's not the point and you must know it. Banning Russian citizens from cultural & sporting events is about ramming home the message that the actions of their state are deplorable. It's about denying them the propaganda of acceptance & success in Europe and elsewhere. Shame on the French & tennis - rotten at the core. At least the Brits have stood up and banned them from Wimbledon, seems now this has led to a split, with this tournament being downgraded.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,882 ✭✭✭✭josip


    It's every Russian's fault. I'm no longer prepared to absolve any of them from responsibility for what's being done by their country in Ukraine.

    Especially not multi-millionaire tennis players who have access to information and the financial means to relocate to another country.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    In fairness, I wonder if there isn't more to the details. The physical/implementation concept of helmet mounted aiming certainly wasn't beyond the capability of NATO militaries, it had entered service in the early 1980s on Apache, for example, accurate enough for gunfire, let alone a missile seeker cone. The question is whether or not it was worth it at the time.

    A related example might have been the introduction into service by the Germans in WW2 of infra red sighting systems on tanks. The idea of infra red had been tried by all the Allies long prior to then, and rejected on the grounds that the technology just was not equal to the theoretical benefits (an opinion shared by the Germans after they tried them in the field and realized it didn't work). It's often voiced as German technological superiority, but in reality it was just a reflection of rational assessment to not implement a technology before it was mature enough to be worthwhile.

    It's worth noting that the US Navy fitted several hundred F4s with the VTAS (Visual Target Acquisition System) in the mid 1970s before they were removed as not worth the effort. South Africa beat even the US, as they had helmet cueing on their Mirage F1s around 1972. Again, though, the question is just how much it was worth having a low end HMD vs waiting for a rather good one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,931 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Good points. Yes maybe they should not have been allowed play in France then.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Yes, Wimbledon decided to exclude them (not a decision of UK govt...) but the international tennis governing bodies don't seem to be for that (article below from about a week ago). Would agree with a ban myself. The cut off and freezing out of Russia (and Belarus) + their citizens from the West needs to get deeper.




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    Oh cop on. Russia needs to be ostracized from the world right now including sports. That's the only way they will learn.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,810 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    That's not a popular position in France and especially in Germany. We hope the Ukrainian forces do well, in France, Germany, Austria, Italy, Netherlands etc they hope the Ukrainian forces come to a settlement, in Berlin they hope for a deference to Russia.


    Don't imagine your and many of our views are positively received in Western Europe.



  • Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    I posted about Lithuanian fundraiser a couple of days ago, re: purchase of bayraktar.

    They did it, €5Mil raised in 3 days, not bad for a country of 3 million people only. When theres a will, theres a way.

    Eastern countries are showing to the west again how things should be done.

    F@ck French and German pùssies sending billions for gas.


    Im drunk and out



  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz


    some pictures



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭Field east


    I find the overall French reaction to the war unbelievable - unless there is something that I do not know. We now have Macron getting involved with Putin to try. And get grain out of Ukraine safely to feed the world. A very opportunistic man. I suppose we will have to stomach. His involvement because it might help to alleviate world famine from occuring



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭Field east


    Putin has ALWAYS weaponised. Sports. He uses it to show - when possible- the world how superior Russians are to those from other countries and especially America. Sports should be treated as collateral damage. I feel for those Russian sports people who want to stay abreast of all of this



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Germany clearly want a convincing Russian victory. A Ukraine in EU dilutes their power, and an alliance with Poland, the Baltic's, Czechoslovaks, Romania forms a powershift due to the numbers.

    Germany will have to find another way to rejig the EU to ensure they have the most power. It will be full of the usual threats of joblessness and economic ruin. I cannot believe so many people fell for this act the Germans suddenly have humility after WW2 and have totally abandoned their national psyche, just because they lost.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,743 ✭✭✭zv2


    When Spassky lost the chess match against Fisher in Reykjavik they took his car away from him.

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,743 ✭✭✭zv2


    Mariupol

    Scholz


    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,931 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Eh maybe because everything he had is gone, his city and his whole life is ruined and his Country is in bits. Maybe he has lost family and friends too.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz


    and all because one old man who sits in comfort longs for an idea from the past.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,931 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Yes it is very sad for Ukraine and very stupid by Putin. He is pure evil. All the blood of all the dead soldiers and civilians in this war are on Putins hands.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭hayse


    You get the feeling Ukraine will loose this war yet. Germany is doing its best to ensure it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    It does seem a few of the Euro countries have always hoped that Ukraine would just cut a deal with Putin so that things would settle back down those countries have no regard for Ukraine and no problem with Putin grabbing back land in that region . It looks likely Putin will get his way in time he seems to have the numbers and will keep going unless Ukraine can drive them back and out but some don't want to see Putin humiliated they are afraid of what will happen to them .



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so



    That's a pretty spectacular 1938 reading of Germany. It is really not what they are doing although your warm anti-EU feelings are noted. Sure it may be slow versus the old warrior Biden or the self-serving toe rag Bojo saving his own career but it is still happening. I really don't get this wild rage against one country just because they are not doing what people demand of them or that they are not ranting like some other countries. It's not as if they started this mess. The EU is complex, has 27 members, and rarely comes up with instant decisions. Even if they were doing whatever they are not, this thing would still be going in August.

    Nearly 100 days into this, much as Ukraine continues to need military support and Zelenskiy reminds people of it daily, he has an agenda and his Koolaid needs the same caution as Putin's.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭weisses


    What is Ireland doing other then cowardly hiding behind the " We are neutral" excuse?



  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭hayse




  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Don't you have a list? It seems the fashion of posters who know what to do to have a list of such things!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    The Germans are right to stay out of it, the last time they tried to sort out Russia they got the sh1t bombed out of them by the western powers.

    Endured a genocide between 1945-1947 and were left with only a rump state.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,460 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    True -zelensky and Ukraine have an agenda- of course - they're not secretive about it - they need to persuade - kajole - pressurize a lot of support ,( financial ,weapons and political ) from the west - and this is an long term project - but the public and news cycles arent really long term ...

    He has a limited time to influence the German public -to pressurize sholtz into quickly divesting from Russian gas .before something pushes Ukraine from the headlines .

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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