Sweden avoiding lockdown

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Examples of why I would not reply to your posts !

Plenty of info already posted and freely available online , but needs someone who is willing to read it and try to make sense of it , which is putting it politely .

Goodbye now , won't be replying again to your rude posts .

Clearly you're not reading what is being spoonfed to you, let me quote one of the passages, and note the use of the words "lockdown measures":

You can now spin off into an argument of 1 about what lockdown measures mean, I'm sure others will find it funny to read.

The crux of this thread was that Sweden did sh*t in 2020 pre-vaccination and managed it better in 2021 post vaccination, I don't think anyone is arguing with their post vaccination approach.

However, there is a few arguing for their disastrous pre-vaccination approach who are ignoring all data and records and trying to obfuscate that with their post-vaccination approach.

Tell those on the mask thread that it's not a restriction 😅 (and as usual I see only a single part of an entire article is being acknowledged).

Not replying cos I had asked you politely to stop rudely demanding links that you have no intention of reading .

Don't know what your definition of rude is but those posts and every other since to me and others are rude and frankly a bit aggressive .

Do not address me again , please .

They did have an inquiry, a commission and 800-page report.

People seem to be hard of reading in this thread.

https://www.tandfonline.com › pdf

Between lockdown and calm down. Comparing the COVID-19 responses of Norway and Sweden - Taylor & Francis Online

This article gives a very complete picture , written from both sides .

For those who need them , there are graphs showing the differences and effects on pages 14 and 15 .

I get that and I'm sorry to disappoint but I don't like attempts of rewriting history either. I mean you write Swedish lockdown in apostrophes but you write it all the same. When there was no such thing whatsoever. There were a few recommendations, an encouragement to keep numbers low in certain indoor settings, a few travel restrictions. But when I read from some here how Sweden abandoned their strategy and effectively did what everyone else did that is just an absolute falsification and an attempt of rewriting history.

The overwhelming fact that remains is that Sweden had no lockdowns, no closed hospitality or retail or entertainment or anything, no business closures, no mask mandates, the list goes on. The difference between Sweden and other European countries including ourselves was like the difference between day and night. And they 'did' just as well or as poorly as the most restrictive countries. One just cannot turn away from this. Our bones of 2 years of media induced perma panic has been exposed as a farce and there is no turning away from that either. And I strongly suspect that partly this is the reason why some people are so angry about Sweden. Sweden has provided that counter argument in the middle of Europe. It wasn't some 'faraway country that could be dismissed as 'nutcase' or 'you couldn't trust their numbers.

Fair enough , it wasn't lockdown . But you are wrong to say they had no restrictions .

They had wide ranging restrictions increasing from Autumn Winter 2021 and while there was no government wide lockdown with retail closures as per other EU countries , local municipal government made decisions to close schools and restrict businesses as well as other measures. All following a loss of trust in their health agency , with high community infection rates and deaths , the majority which were in that first year .

People were advised to work from home , numbers in gatherings were restricted , masks for travel and indoor environments, certs and testing , isolation if positive , all like other countries but crucially not in that first wave .

I get that you think we were too strict , but we managed to keep our excess deaths low and didn't become overwhelmed like some other wealthier countries did with more hospital beds and doctors than us . Far from doing poorly .

Do we have lessons to learn? Yes. We should learn by looking at what other countries did , the data on illness and deaths and vaccinations, and yes, even by the Swedish response .

What they did well was in reducing measures appropriately in 2021 in response to improvements in infection rates, hospitalisations and vaccination levels .

And the Swedes should and are doing the same ie . Learning from past mistakes and responses of other countries .

No country got this right 100% ...and that includes Sweden .