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Donegal GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    Absolute p1ss. Loosing to Derry is one thing but losing to that so and so. Rubbish game. Tactics like that is a stain on the sport.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Got entirely what they deserved. Nothing.

    Bonner should be sacked before getting back to Donegal. A disgrace.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    Criminal tactics in the second half when we went a few ahead. Time for new management



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    Donegal are a poorly coached team. No pace to their play all year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Twice in the 3 minutes of added on time (end of normal) Derry went for the win but had two awful wides. Donegal held the ball inside their own 45 for the final minute playing for extra time.

    They deserved to lose with that carry on.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭overshoot


    In Bonners first year or two we were celebrated for kick outs, quick transition, had none of that today. It was like we were trying to give them time to set with the possession game plan. A Rory Gallagher team was always going to be very difficult to break down given time

    The Doherty mark was about the only bit of inventive play.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    No ambition, no creativity, no courage. We got what we deserved. What a waste of talent.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24 FreeChocco


    Everyone seems to have forgotten that Donegal were one of the most dangerous attacking teams in the country under Bonner for a few years. Granted, its fallen apart since last year (maybe since the Cavan loss) but you'd swear reading some of the comments that donegal only know how to defend.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,027 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    come on , as a natural that was the worst ulster final in memory , it was brutal , dublin or kerry will devour any of either team if they meet , if donegal decide to be happy with this its a joke



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭overshoot


    He sacrificed the attack side to solve the rather leaky defence. High possession, Low risk going forward, which is fine against weaker teams but it is predictable... And this type of game was inevitable against an RG team

    @windy shepard henderson there were some rather brutal ones when Rory Gallagher was in charge of us too, not sure I'd say worst in memory. Don't think either of us will trouble Kerry but Kildare were horrendous to be putting the dubs as back



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  • Registered Users Posts: 678 ✭✭✭Joe Don Dante


    a **** disgrace



  • Registered Users Posts: 678 ✭✭✭Joe Don Dante


    Mod Edit

    Warinng issued.

    Post edited by ShamoBuc on


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 FreeChocco


    I'm not happy with it, and furthermore I think Bonner should be gone. But hearing some of the comments after the match you'd swear Donegal have been an exclusively ultra defensive side since the Jim McGuinness days.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,914 ✭✭✭doc_17


    GUBU



  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭bob skunkhouse


    Jaysus....that was hard to take. While I'm not overly surprised at the result, what annoys me the most is that we knew exactly what was in store and had zero game plan to account for it. FFS sake....3 times we put a big man in the square, Caolan McGonigle got a fisted point from one long ball but then there was none coming in. What's the point of putting a big man in the square without at least sticking a ball in there....Rodgers - 3 points from play and a MOTM performance. Playing Murphy deep (often as the last man back) was a disaster. Why not stick him back in the square and let the other forwards feed of any scraps? Paddy Mc and Jamie Brennan, two lads that should be outside the first 15. Conor O'D and Doherty worth a gamble now. Regardless of the results of the remaining games, Bonner and Rochford have to go. Be interesting to see who would throw their hat in the ring. Rory Kavanagh, Lacy? What about Ricey McMen - he might bring that bit of aggression that we're missing.?OMcFF would love to see him come in - right up his alley.



  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Murphy14


    Massive disappointment another one that got away. To lay the blame at the management solely is simplifying the whole process in their reappointment when their previous term came to an end the county board left a very short time frame for applications there were a number of people interested in the role but didn’t have sufficient time to put together a proper and professional application there certainly seems to be a closed shop approach. The ship sailed for this current management after the Ulster final of 2020, we have limped along since then.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭henke


    I don't know is it a culture thing in Donegal where the county board are happy with mediocrity. Look at Kerry for example if you don't deliver the All Ireland within a few years you are out. Keane came after Bonner and he's gone. Bonner wouldn't survive there Donegal is a big county with good players they should always expect to be up there and go toe to toe with anyone.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,914 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Declan’s time is up. Murphy needs to play on the 45 or closer to their goal. Insane what happened yesterday with him, Rodgers took him to the cleaners and kicked 3 points from play. Michael also needs to pass on the dress from the ground. It’s a long time since I was confident watching him kick it off the ground.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    We have a major issue with football in the county. The county final last year was a disgrace. Players are coached to within an inch of their lives. They are not encouraged to be creative or take risks. Heads up football is non existent. Patterns of play that are turgid and predictable have become the norm.

    There is nobody in club management in the county worthy of the county manager position. Our underage county managers are as bad and possibly worse than the senior management. They are equally negative in their approach.

    We have the players but robotic play is the norm across the board in the county. There is no short term fix, it is too ingrained.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭henke


    Who do people think would be a good choice as manager. They need to get it right which will be no easy task.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    Spot on analysis. It's criminal the brand of football being inculcated in our youth. The fear in their play yesterday was so obvious. I just hope that some former players within the county have the guts to call this sh1t out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    That's it in a nutshell. Our attacking play is right from the basketball coaching manual, plays set out, lads running patterns, nothing off the cuff or instinctive. It's been this way for a while and it has been talked about on here for the last two years and still the county board sit back and leave it continue. Far too much emphasis on coaching these days, not nearly enough on playing football.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,914 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Heard Pauric McShea had a rip at the shi** we had to watch on Sunday using his Democrat article. I know Declan and the team are hurting but some things need to said. I’d like to know what Rochford makes of it? Either his coaching isn’t up to scratch or he isn’t being listened to. Either way, it’s a cost the county can’t afford.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭babybuilder




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Pauric didn't see this coming. He was very complementary earlier in the year when the writing was on the wall. As for the positive impact Hugh McFadden had? Man dear.

    The rest of the piece is spot on. It just feels like he is late to the party.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,914 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Big Hugh has struggled for a while now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,253 ✭✭✭tanko




  • Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭dog_pig


    Not sure there's been much progress made on this front nearly four years on. Had hoped Rochford would shore up some of those shortcomings but that doesn't appear to be the case.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Re: Hugh McFadden - He is not at the level and is being targeted by the opposition.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Re: underage management. They are considerably worse than senior management and it is a big problem.

    Anyone who has watched our minor teams in particular over the last few years will have seen the same type of nonsense in terms of zero risk, no attacking plan and negative football. And then that same manager talks about 'development' without realizing the irony of his words. Completely tone deaf. The Under 20's manager is another one who is out of his depth but at least this year that group had Eamon McGee and Leo McLoone in coaching.

    We have nobody internally that I can see who is in a position to take the step up to senior management with the exception of Rory Kavanagh (who still probably needs more experience at underage county) and possibly Karl Lacey (who is a coach and not a manager). Michael Murphy cannot be the answer either so it will need to be external.

    Whatever the remainder of this season may bring it is clear that Declan's time and his backroom team's time is now up. The team is drifting through games with no intensity in anything they do. We have better defenders in place this season but defensively have you ever seen a worse team with bodies back than this Donegal team? All standing there like statues as the opposition manage to waltz inside for a handy shot. If you watched Kerry against Cork and the ferociousness of their tackling and hunting the ball when Cork were on the attack - championship fettle.

    Donegal sleepwalking through championship games, afraid to take on any sort of risk, afraid to go for the jugular and win games. It is shameful for a team that has good players capable of causing damage.

    As for the players generally, Paddy McBrearty is not fit and he is not effective. He is not working back and he is not putting in a shift when Donegal (occasionally) try to press teams. Ryan McHugh has been completely off the boil for well over a year but consistently gets a free pass. Can never fault Hugh McFadden's work rate but he is is being targeted by the opposition. Jamie Brennan is not at the races and is not yet over his injury.

    Hard to see where we go from here but it's impossible to see a turnaround with this management team based on the past few years. Declan is a great servant to Donegal football and was the right man for the job in 2017 and will be an addition somewhere else in Donegal but it can't be with the seniors.



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