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Johnny Depp Vs. Amber Heard

  • 08-07-2020 10:01pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,568 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    darkdubh wrote: »
    Johnny Depp's popularity has taken a tumble with the Amber Heard thing. His career has been in steady decline for a while too.

    James Franco and Paul Bettany brought in now, Winona Ryder and Vanessa Paradis have come to Depp's defence (his exs)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭Sugarlumps


    Depp was one of the coolest mutha****ers back in the day. There was some video of him in a wine cellar, dungeon. Johnny whispers muttering about Covid. I’ll like to see them both flown to an exotic island and shackled together until they find a cure for Covid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    The drama! What a toxic, bitter situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Sheridan81


    I think he's innocent. Why go to all that bother of suing if he's not? It's not like anyone worthwhile reads The Sun. He's just bringing more attention to the slur. It must be the principle of the matter that concerns him. He's a noble, brave man with great respect for women, much like myself. Go...go Johnny go!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    A quick google of info (in the public domain) throws up the following:

    Johnny, blood brother of (hero): Keith Richards, buddies (perhaps more) with the freakshow that is Mary-lin Manson and the now wayward, thirsty, and pyramid owner, good ole Nic' Cage...
    Chances are the old (57yo) vampirsh Johnny sleeps upside down from roof beams, to keep his (outdated) youthful pirate look.

    Young River Phoneix (sqeaky clean, with a strong anti-drugs view) passed away after attending Depp's (druggy) nightclub, and with no marks on his arms, one would expect from an overdose...

    His 'The Viper Rooms' does seem to have a vampirish life of it's own regardless, no shortage also of reading material on Depp, although the quality of these publications are questionable at the same time...

    Previous to all this recent celeb gutter stuff, JD defended the actions of the 'West Memphis Three' he reckons they are like 'totally innocent, like'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/7301964/Johnny-Depp-defends-men-convicted-of-satanic-ritual-murders.html
    Perhaps Depp just lost his way after entertaining the (creepster) Polanski, in his 1999 movie: the Ninth Gate.

    Or maybe he's a jolly good fellow who's lady simply had a bowel malfunction upon his bed.
    He's sure be a good larf when out on the lash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Seems to be a pair of them in it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Seems to be a pair of them in it

    Absolutely. They seem to be up there with Mia Farrow/Woody Allen and Alec Baldwin/Kim Basinger in the toxic couple stakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,051 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Definitely a pair of them in it.

    I was taking his side more, until I read he "accidentally " headbutted her in the face though.

    Will be hard to get past that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Sheridan81


    I don't get it. If Depp hasn't been convicted of domestic assault then surely The Sun can't describe him as a wife-beater without it being libel. Maybe someone can explain it to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Sheridan81 wrote: »
    I don't get it. If Depp hasn't been convicted of domestic assault then surely The Sun can't describe him as a wife-beater without it being libel. Maybe someone can explain it to me.

    Well, I reckon he’ll win personally for the reasons you’ve outlined here.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sheridan81 wrote: »
    I don't get it. If Depp hasn't been convicted of domestic assault then surely The Sun can't describe him as a wife-beater without it being libel. Maybe someone can explain it to me.

    No. OJ Simpson wasn't convicted of murder but it's not libel to publish that he murdered 2 people. Libel works on balance of probability and maliciousness. Convictions have a higher bar for proof.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    The sun is an awful rag anyway, the news of the world was shut down a few years ago, the sun should have gone the same way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,568 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    The sun is an awful rag anyway, the news of the world was shut down a few years ago, the sun should have gone the same way.

    The Sun on Sunday is The News of the World


  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    She is a toxic woman just like all her #metoo friends. Johnny Depp was always a little marginal and interesting she wanted his money and now she wants to dis credit him for more money this time from the Sun as she is their witness. Appalling woman very bad judgement on his part to marry her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,078 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Id never heard of her before this but seeing her on the news she seems like an attention seeking high maintenance minor actress. Depp always came across as a bit out there and a nutter who liked a good time. Hope he wins and the Sun gets ****ed over financially


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Amber describes a 3rd person being in the relationship, that seems to take over Depp, and send him loopy and out of charachter.
    When you listen to his groaning on the airplane, associations and his murky background (inc the Viper Rooms) chances are the lad is possessed.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,301 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    neris wrote: »
    Id never heard of her before this but seeing her on the news she seems like an attention seeking high maintenance minor actress. Depp always came across as a bit out there and a nutter who liked a good time. Hope he wins and the Sun gets ****ed over financially

    Looks like he didn't.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/13082970/johnny-depp-wife-beater-loses-libel-case-amber-heard-12-times/


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Poor Capt'n Jack Sparrow. remember Depp first from the cop on 21 Jump Street. But a warning light appeared in my head when they had to go to all the effort to rescue the pet dog.


  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    So sorry for Depp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,183 ✭✭✭screamer


    Dunno with this one, seems to be so much he said, she said, flimsy enough evidence on both sides. Smacks of a nasty breakup gone wrong, although sounds like they made a toxic couple anyways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,568 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    spurious wrote: »

    Can he appeal?

    Did an assistant of him or her come out staying Amber was lying using her story for #metoo


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Tsimiskas


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    James Franco and Paul Bettany brought in now, Winona Ryder and Vanessa Paradis have come to Depp's defence (his exs)

    Johnny Depp loses libel case against Sun over claims he beat ex-wife Amber Heard


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Uers938f8dLP


    He might be able to appeal.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7 paleoperson2


    Johnny Depp has accused Amber Heard of pocketing $7M divorce settlement and repeatedly 'lying' about giving it all to charity - as letter shows LA children's hospital asking if she planned to honor her pledge

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9118921/Johnny-Depp-accuses-Amber-Heard-taking-7M-settlement-lying-giving-charity.html

    Lying about giving money to a children's charity.

    "the money was just resting in my account, it was strictly a non-profit making fudiciary account...". :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,568 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    The case has started



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭jj880


    Watched some of Depps testimony this morning.

    Since the metoo movement really blew up with Weinstein in 2017 any time an abuser was outed there were plenty of other women that came forward with further allegations. With Depp not one woman came out in support of Amber Heard. In fact the opposite happened. Every woman who spoke up about her relationship with Depp backed him and said the Johnny they knew was nothing like Heards account. I mean come on even the woman he cheated on with Heard came out and supported him.

    My opinion is Amber Heard jumped on the metoo bandwagon in 2018 when she published her Washington Post piece. She tried using a fabricated version of her marriage to Depp to further her career and it should blow up in her face if there's any justice. The staged photographs she put together as "proof" of Depps abuse in the London court case were completely laughable. No-one wants genuine victims to be afraid to come forward or have their abusive experiences called into question but Heard's account of her time with Depp is so far over the line that it's really quite scary to think that she could suffer no sanction over it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭Ann22


    Anyone watching? I'm off work this wk and my nose is glued to the screen. At the moment JD is being crossed examined by Heard's attorney. All he has is text messages. Some dodgy ones where JD is calling her a whore etc and saying he'd fck her corpse and a lot of drug talk but not really contradicting what he said on the stand yesterday. He's discussed his drug taking and apologised for some of his dark humoured texts saying it's the way he deals with stuff but that he is never violent. It'll be a long time before I forget some of his horror stories.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,197 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I was watching some of this on YouTube. Listening to some of the recordings, the woman is completely unhinged. Just watching her body language, demeanour is unsettling. Her saying I didn't punch you, only hit you then completely berating him for it. She is a truely horrible person, hopefully she gets what's coming to her



  • Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    It will be interesting to see career-wise, what will happen to the respective parties and whether the legal fees will destroy the loser



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Weezer22


    I hate the way they keep pushing the fact that he has struggled with addiction. Yes, he was an addict- but that doesn't automatically make him an abuser.

    I do think he made mistakes and I don't think he was a saint in that marriage either, but he doesn't deserve to have his name dragged through the mud either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭jj880




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,568 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Kate Moss giving evidence on behalf of Depp



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭jj880


    No wonder Depps legal team were happy when Heard mentioned Kate Moss and they could include her as a witness.

    Not only did Depp not push Kate Moss down the stairs but when she slipped and fell down the stairs he ran to her aid, carried her to bed and got her medical attention.

    From all Heards recordings and the case overall it looks like Heard was gathering evidence (at least what she thought could pass for evidence) to force a big divorce settlement. There was a list of crazy demands. She didn't get them met so decided she was going to destroy Depp. Not all people will agree but that's how it looks.

    Who knows how the promo will go for Aquaman 2. I dont think she will be involved. Could you imagine her on a talk show like Graham Norton after this?

    She could be cut from the film completely yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭jj880


    TMZ got a "tip off" to come to a car park to get a photo of a bruise on Heards face on the day she file for a restraining order. The car park of the courthouse where Heard had just filed the restraining order. Pathetic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Heard getting a right bashing on social media. Has she any supporters?

    Johnny starting to look like Logan Roy.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,214 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    When is the ruling meant to happen with this case anyways?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭jj880


    Closing arguments tomorrow.

    Then dury deliberations immediately.

    Could take a while for the dury to reach a verdict though. Mountains of evidence to go through Id say.

    Does the judge rule immediately after verdict in a civil case in the US? Not sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭jj880


    Her support is very thin on the ground. Few people now and again. Rachel Riley randomly tweeted saying she wouldn't wish Depp on her worst enemy. Not sure whats going on there.

    Its overwhelming support for Depp. Even the witnesses Heards own legal team call end up being disastrous. Her lawyers look like they are constantly floundering to make any kind of case for her. Theres no substance to any of her claims except her own recordings which have ended up making her look like the abuser instead of the abused.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,745 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Depp is a raging alcoholic and a drug addict who can't even remember his violent outbursts, lucky that some of it is caught on tape like smashing cabinets to on. He's trying to win a case to save his career, but we all know he's in the wrong and should lose this case, unreal what the Depp fanboys have done to Heard, she's the victim, shame on all those women groupies harassing her on Depps request.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    In the end of the day, this is a very hard case for Depp to actually win

    Defamation is notoriously hard to prove, so I can’t see a result in his favour here



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,102 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Judge Azcarate looks like especially through the latter part of this that she might have wished that she was working in McDonalds…

    if one was to read her body language, facial expressions and the barley interested intonation when she speaks at times…” I can’t believe “I studied 5 years to be with these people doing this”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭jj880


    Yes there is evidence of Depp slamming some cupboards. Trouble is that's it.

    Heard was arrested for assaulting her ex girlfriend and admitted to hitting Depp in the recordings played in court.

    Depps team have gained the advantage in having Depp own his drug / drink problems but most of all getting the case televised. Heard wont admit to anything even when caught red handed in cross examination e.g. stating she donated her divorce settlement to a children's hospital when she kept the money. In a court case when you are caught lying it calls into question everything else you say. Especially when you have no evidence or witnesses to back it up.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭US3


    Did she really chop off Johnny's finger?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭jj880


    Its he said she said on that incident. Depp went to hospital so there are xrays etc.

    All of Heards claims have to be taken at her word. That's the problem she has. All the times she says Depp hit her, knocked her to the ground, grabbed her round the neck, sexually assaulted her with a bottle. No evidence, no witnesses, no medical records for any of it.

    Im not convinced Depp will win this case as has been said above defamation is difficult to prove. I think his secondary goal was to show the public the real Amber Heard and let them make up their own minds. Depp doesnt come out of this looking great but Heard looks unhinged and sociopathic. It will be interesting to see what the reaction will be to Depp and Heard once the verdict and ruling are finished up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,926 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    No matter the verdict of the jury...Depp wins. He's been shown to be an addict who uses grotesque language. Heard has been shown to be a liar and an abuser.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,197 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Heard constantly trying to cry was pretty funny. She's been caught out on lies,editing videos,editing photos, no evidence of abuse, witnesses seen no marks on her and her body language isn't that of someone that been abused. She's sitting there smirking and laughing, the constantly talking directly to the jury was just weird. She's a complete sociopath



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,598 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think it's fair to say they were both abusive to each other to some degree, but Heard has definitely been shown to have manipulated the truth in her op-ed and the things she has said. Depp's team certainly put forward the stronger case and Heard was a disaster on the stand, though I've seen a lot of clips of Depp on the stand too where he's being incredibly snarky and dismissive which, while some might see it as being funny, also shows off a side of his personality that he probably shouldn't have on the stand in a case trying to determine if he may have been mentally abusive to Heard as well as physically.

    But as others have said, this could end up coming down to particular legal definitions with regards to things like what constitutes defamation, have particular legal thresholds been crossed etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭jj880


    This kind of behaviour does her no favours. Comes off as dismissive of the whole process, thinking shes smarter than everyone or trying to distract the jury during Depps team making final arguments.

    I did laugh at the first comment under the video:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,745 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    It's unreal that most of the public is with Depp, smashing cabinets while high on drugs and booze is ABUSE, he doesn't need to smash her too, geeez. And the logic of asking where is the evidence he hit her, come on, is she suppose to say, ' hold on Johnny, let me grab my phone, okay '' action'' please continue to hold me up against the wall by my throat''

    Smashing phones into a thousand pieces against a wall while he holds her there is abuse, HE doesn't NEED to smash it off her head for it to be abuse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,745 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Depp was arrested for smashing up a hotel room while Kate Moss was there with him, she was fine, funny that she claims they never argued , when in fact Depp was doing the same thing with her, smashing things to bits in a relationship is abuse, he didn't need to smash Kate Moss to be arrested in that incident.



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