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Dublin Airport security waiting times

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭trellheim


    All we will see is a second horde behind the first , thats not a plan thats handwashing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,220 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Fairly easy to set a restriction on the scanners at security to refuse 'early' passengers



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Hi,

    Can someone define long haul please? Would a four hour flight be classed as long haul?

    Thanks

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    And for those of us that didn’t take the medicine a valid recovery cert or antigen test will also suffice to enter Spain.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    If they can properly implement the plan of keeping out passengers with flights more than 2.5/3.5 hours away, then this is a good thing.

    What is happening is 5/6 hours worth of passengers are all coming at the same time and then the fears of seeing queues, means people are panicking. You will always have folks hitting security around an hour before their flight, because some of the check in desks can take an absolute age to get through. I've had this when checking a bag in on connecting flights such as KLM and BA. These pax are then joining the others here 5 hours before their 9.30am flight when there will be light queues at 7.30, excpet are in the mix of passengers at say 5.30am at the peak time.

    If the DAA guarantee that every passenger will get through with this system, then that will be good.

    I do worry about the holding pen and its facilities for passengers...



  • Registered Users Posts: 938 ✭✭✭alentejo


    Does the 2.5 hours include the time you enter the terminal to drop off bags and check in ?





  • Herded into holding pens like cattle.

    It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.

    This is 21st century Ireland. We have all the technology and tools for planning and forecasting and this is what's happening. Remember this is a crisis that was flagged months ago.

    I would hate to be travelling the weekend.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Will this new plan make the situation better or worse ? Remains to be seen, I guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭LiamaDelta


    Luckily people also have technology and tools such as clocks to ensure that if they turn up at the indicated time then they won't need to be in a holding area at all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Ah lads ffs come on most people are terrified of not making their holliers - this is scaring them even more. This'll force them to turn up even earlier.


    So the answer here is a 2nd queue behind the first. WHAT the FK .

    DAA have given NO guarantee that 2.5 hours will guarantee you make your flight ( and its worse for preclearance ) . Therefore everyone will ignore it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭trellheim


    In terminal 1 there are perpetually 5 or 6 idle scanner belts. Check it out - they have never run a full sets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Rant Mode briefly off : DAA are live in front of the Dail Committee. Watch here from 1330 at https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/oireachtas-tv/cr2-live/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭john boye


    I'm sure they'll have hoped that this system will deter people from turning up 4/5 hours before departure but I suspect it might actually be the opposite in practice.



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    Only queues for the bag drop this morning, apparently



  • Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    You can't compare a Wednesday morning to a bank holiday weekend morning, I don't think anyone on here cares all that much about what happens before Friday......



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭stuff.hunter


    Flying out on Saturday morning at 8.50 and need to check bags in, desk opens 3 hours prior to flight so 5.50. I'm going to be there at 4am latest as these so-called measures wont work if only a few security lanes will be open



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,220 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Are you flying to a destination outside of Europe? Flying to Greece is NOT long haul

    Canada, US, Dubai etc thats long haul



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    So basically the DAA's answer to queues inside the Airport is to lock the doors and have people queue up outside the airport until the airport is ready for them.

    And it took the DAA 48 hours to come up with this as a solution?

    I wouldn't be surprised if next week they propose to start to use snipers on the roof of the airport to cull the excess passenger population.

    I swear Dalton Philips is actually trying to get fired.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,856 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Sounds like you'll be sitting twiddling your thumbs outside the airport until 6.20, if they implement their triage plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Finger crossed I am travelling tomorrow at 730...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    Better to be twiddling your thumbs at the head of the new queue to join the old queue when the doors open at 6:20 than arrive at the back of the new queue at 6:15 and have thousands of people ahead of you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭trellheim


    precisely.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,304 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭stuff.hunter


    its going to be sh1tshow



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭stuff.hunter


    they have to let people in when check-in desks are open .. otherwise is going to be murder



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,304 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Yeah which is in general around 2.5-3hrs before departure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Ingrid Miley off RTE tweeting this morning about LH bag drop machines not having paper in them and so useless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    Hopefully it will work similar to how I suggested in the other thread. If you’re too early for your flight you are directed to a lane (holding area) outside based on flight number. Once the queue inside shortens, you will then be moved inside to join it. The outside lane you were in opens again with flight numbers taking off after all the other pens. If you’re even earlier than all them, you wait.

    I think they should get festival staff to Nan it though as they’re used to herding large crowds to specific areas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭trellheim


    It’s a common tactic used in other airports to restrict terminal numbers from a security and queue POV, a lot did it during covid as well.

    Yes, for sure, but its not crowds in the terminal thats the issue, its a screening bottleneck . Queue management so far has not been an issue.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭mumo3


    If they're claiming delays are caused by staff shortages, where are they going to get the extra staff to manage this new plan for the weekend? I can already envision the sheer carnage!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,304 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    The security staff that were supposed to be ready for last Sunday that ended up not being certified & they're bringing in ASU officers from Cork. 10+ lanes open during all peak periods. Along with removing ASU officers from the security gates where you scan your pass. They'll be replaced by staff from other areas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    This solution to the queues by adding more queues outside is still going to be challenged by the fact that they are still only operating at 70% pre-covid security staffing levels with 90% pre-covid passenger levels and all additional security checks now due to the failed audit

    If I had a early morning flight this weekend I wouldn't trust the DAA and I would arrive before the 2.5 or 3.5 hours to queue in the triage Edit: I just seen they advise an extra hour if you have a bag drop, FFS mental



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Dalton Phillips on now on oireachtas TV. Tune in for the BS



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭crisco10



    When the announced this, my 1st thought was that their theory that it was all the panicers arriving early's fault will be tested now.

    Then I started to think, this might change people's behavior a bit and make the outside queuing area redundant (Which would be great). But now I see the "arrive earlier with bags" quote, it makes the whole thing more likely to be a farce. Be easy to walk up now, claim you're checking in a bag but just go to security instead. Thus the black and white, easy to understand, easy to manage triage system starts to crumble, and we are back to where we started.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    They already had been drafting in staff from Cork though. Cork need to have staff too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    No matter what plan they came up with a lot of people would be lambasting it. Even if they brought in the army like a lot of people suggested then others would be ridiculing it.

    Overall I think it's a step in the right direction and would be surprised if this weekend is carnage like last weekend. All eyes are on the DAA so they'll be pulling out all the stops to make sure things run smoothly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 938 ✭✭✭alentejo


    According to Dalton Phillips at the Oireachtas hearing its 3.5 hours for short haul with luggage requiring drop off!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭stuff.hunter


    DAA are capable of fcuking up simple Q management beyond any recognition



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭Arnold Layne


    What length of trip or destination is classed as short haul?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭stuff.hunter


    guess all European flights are classified as 'short haul'



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,304 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    They did it for the April and May bank holiday as far as I'm aware but they hadn't been doing it in recent weeks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    As far as I know they have as my cousin has been going up and down to Dublin regularly despite working in Cork airport.



  • Registered Users Posts: 971 ✭✭✭Green Peter


    The public accounts committee are a disgrace, all spouting off with the benefit of hindsight and trying to score points. They are actually quite nasty at times, really show their colours. Lynn Boylan on now, some wagon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,856 ✭✭✭Allinall


    They're always like that.

    Grandstanding in front of the cameras.

    Should be held in private, with independent witnesses.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Masala


    yer man in the Chair thinks he is prosecuting in a Murder Trial. " how many of this / how many of that / can you guarantee / give free water / here's the weather forecast / .."... surprised he didn't ask Dalton for next weeks Lotto numbers





  • When the triaging system comes into effect and it’s a wet day outside (before they get to install shelter etc) there’ll be all sorts of “exceptions” popping up among impatient people. Wouldn’t like to be the personnel conducting it 😱



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,482 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Triage is not going to work

    There is nowhere for people to go.





  • I imagine they are *hoping* that people will only present themselves near terminal door within the allowed time frames, and not form a continuous long queue. How it will play out is another thing. Some will No doubt time their arrival to airport site not to be hanging around outside very long, others will be so anxious they will arrive early, there’ll be others who will get caught up in transport delays when trying to get there last minute.



  • Registered Users Posts: 135 ✭✭Astral Nav


    Bearing in mind and that the DAA claim that DUB has the second busiest bus terminus in Ireland and that is actually just an open area with some bus stop signs, I wouldn't be too hopeful about portable toilets and rain cover.

    The media has a short memory, we've been getting examples of massive DAA incompetence for years, be it security, safety incidents, cleaning, building and infrastructure. It needs a good clean out and restructuring with all the deadwood in management let go. Of course all that needs leadership...



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