BMW i4

absolutely, to me the M50 is almost too fast for the road, not sure why anyone would need faster. If it was in my price range I’d happily sacrifice the extra power/speed for a nicely spec’d Taycan RWD, which I’m sure is plenty fast for Irish roads

I think top end of the Bmw M50 is 225 km/hr & the Tesla Model 3P is 262 km/hr, so the Tesla would catch & pass the M50 I presume on a runway or autoban

Its sort of a never ending logic....well the i4 is 80k push to 90 and you have a taycan....push to 150 and you have a Model S Plaid etc. You have to plant your flag at a certain point.

Just on the Taycan thing, I dont really see anything wrong with a base spec RWD, base colour base interior, only the base wheels would annoy my cause they is ugly. Taycan is very much focused on being a "drivers EV" and leaving out anything thats not driving focused or takes the focus off driving. It has all the tech really, the apps and infotainment, basic cruise control....and everything you could want really. The base interior is very nice. I dont think really you could want much more. All the extras are mostly just that....easy to live without. But the Taycan is the most configurable car Porsche make, so you can go into unbelievable detail, and there is a certain FOMO not getting all the bells and whistles, but the basic one is a fine fine car.

A Tesla Model 3 performance runs out of puff quickly after an atomic launch...really is built for 0-60 and once you get over that it builds speed slowly....you would want a long run to get to its top speed....its the single gear it has. Really any EV with a 0-60 of 5 secs or under is plenty fast, you never get to the top speed and things like 80kph - 160kph are more important for how fast it feels on the motorway.....top trumps stats are for noobs.

The Taycan is the goal I’m working to in the not too distant future, a bit of graft will get me there (hopefully). That aside I think the base model needs the bigger battery, upgraded suspension, the 20 inch wheels, the 150kW DC converter, all those at a minimum, you might disagree? That’s probably €10k of options. Add in a few creature comforts that should be standard & like I said, the most frugal spec. I could come away with was around €115k. I see one Taycan on a not too regular basis where I am & when I do see it I’m always gobsmacked at its presence & how pictures/videos don’t do it any justice.

Re getting my cash back.

It's not what I wanted.

I want the car I ordered, and if anything they've probably sold my trade in at a nice profit and would I'm sure only offer me the trade in value they gave me as cash. Would leave me out of pocket as replacing my trade in would cost me probably 8k more than they gave me for it.

I've considered all the options at this point anyway, over and over again. Decision time next week.

It would be reasonable to expect a gesture of goodwill either from BMW Ireland or the dealer but I won't hold me breath.

There really aren't any good outcomes other than a timely repair and car returned next week.

Any other outcome is going to have me substantially out of pocket and dealing with more BS for another unknown period of time.

Yes that's why I would be tempted to go for the 4S, if you take into account it has air suspension as standard (and better performance) and is not that much more expensive than the base model. But I'd be happy enough with the base model too. I always prefer RWD over AWD for driving enjoyment.

Hope your right Fitz ! Cross turismo 4 ,July delivery all going well.

Can we stop talking about the Taycan.

It just keeps bringing me back to the Porsche configuration

(*only 35k in Options)

a 'cheap' taycan is probably going to be one of the best performing cars depreciation wise over the next 3 years i reckon.

you know what i mean 😁

im tormented with them, fitz has one across the road from me and now my neighbour has one too,

Soon!

Etron GT stopped in traffic the other side of road there earlier got a good 30 second look at it as regards road presence. Also very impressive. Taycan and etron GT becoming a semi common sight now, see a few of them around and they are lovely. I'm sure bmw have something in mind to replace the 6 series and compete in that class although I haven't heard yet.

Motorway speeds of 120km/h (GPS not speedo) or more are detrimental to the range of EVs, even the most aerodynamic ones (the i4 has excellent aerodynamics)

If you avoid motorways and it's not winter, you can get the advertised WLTP range in most EVs if you have a light foot

Can any owners confirm if the i4 supports wired Apple Carplay or if its wireless only like iDrive 7 ?

has anyone ordered an i4 recently - what sort of delivery dates are they talking about?

Friend of a friend enquired a few weeks ago and was told late 2023!